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   <title><![CDATA[Needlewheels are for sissies :  I don&amp;#039;t want to take this...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1309">Ryan Thompson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 11:32pm<br /><br />I don't want to take this thread too far off topic but I figured it fit.<div><br></div><div>The new ATI skimmers look really sweet to me! The whole design is awesome.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://reefbuilders.com/2010/08/25/gridwheel-ati-powerc&#111;ne/" target="_blank">http://reefbuilders.com/2010/08/25/gridwheel-ati-powercone/</a></div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Ryan Thompson - September&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 11:33pm</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Needlewheels are for sissies : That looks really hard to diy,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2608">fishoutawater</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 11:30pm<br /><br />That looks really hard to diy, lol. I'd love to see the inside of that air intake on the volute. That looks radically different than the usual venturi as well.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Needlewheels are for sissies : The bubbles look big in the video,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2608">fishoutawater</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 11:20pm<br /><br />The bubbles look big in the video, for some reason when I had the flow meter on it, the bubbles got bigger, and the head collapsed a little bit as well. Don't take the title too seriously, I am still running my other skimmer with the needlewheel and it's doing a great job. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I know bubble size is a big issue in any skimmer, I also know that becketts and downdraft skimmers process a lot more water than any other type. I have also seen them increase the oxygen level in the tanks they are on by quite a bit. My main purpose is to see if you can make one&nbsp;work well with a much smaller pump than is used traditionally. Most of what I have read recommends a pressure rated pump that will do at least 1000gph at about 8' of head pressure, I think the mag7 only does around 350 at that height.</DIV><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by fishoutawater - September&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 11:22pm</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Needlewheels are for sissies : have you seen the new &amp;#034;gridwheel&amp;#034;...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1309">Ryan Thompson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 11:19pm<br /><br />have you seen the new "gridwheel" that ATI is putting in their new skimmers?<div><br></div><div>They are going to be a total needlewheel killer.</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Needlewheels are for sissies : How big are the bubbles if you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2095">sanddune600</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 12:37pm<br /><br />How big are the bubbles if you cut a bubble in half its there is twice as much air surface area meaning you need half as much air to do the same thing]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Needlewheels are for sissies : Nice mike, My ASM G2 is still...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2625">Kiltboy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 9:38am<br /><br />Nice mike, My ASM G2 is still doin awesome!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Needlewheels are for sissies : mike your crazy =) ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2299">Nick801</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;01&nbsp;2010 at 11:57pm<br /><br />mike your crazy =)]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Needlewheels are for sissies : I got the itch to try something...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2608">fishoutawater</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;01&nbsp;2010 at 11:50pm<br /><br />I got the itch to try something different for a skimmer. I worked on a few for members here, hope you are all still satisfied. And I made a couple for myself, but they were all needlewheel skimmers. At work a little while ago I started playing with a huge, dual beckett skimmer and decided to make a smaller version.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Becketts and downdrafts are awesome skimmers, the only problem is that they require large, powerful, pressure rated, expensive pumps that take up a lot of space and use a ton of electricity. This is still in the planning/r&amp;d phase, but it looks really promising. I am using a mag7 pump to run it, 65w, not much bigger than your fist. I don't think a 65w pump on a skimmer is excessive. Tonight I put the airflow meter on it for the first time and was a little surprised.</DIV><DIV><a href="http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll191/fishoutawater/skimmer%20mods/?acti&#111;n=view&amp;current=101_1694.mp4" target="_blank"><img src="http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll191/fishoutawater/skimmer%20mods/th_101_1694.jpg" border="0" /></a></DIV><DIV>The numbers are a little hard to read, most of the time it pulls between 40-45 scfh on the meter. </DIV><DIV>The body is just a 4 1/2" tube with no bottom, and a 3 1/2" neck. This thing easily pushes foam all the way out the top, so I am getting about a two foot head of foam. I wish I had an orp meter so I could see how much it affects that. Hopefully in the next couple weeks I will have it finished and have&nbsp;a better idea what it will do. I will leave the pump in the sump and plumb it externally, the Mrs. will love seeing another piece of fish equipment in the office.</DIV>]]>
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