WMAS Discussion Forum : System Kinks http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 06 Jul 2026 08:55:42 +0000 Sun, 25 Mar 2012 22:05:40 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=55232 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[System Kinks : Aha! Eric has the answer.10+ feet...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457672&title=system-kinks#457672 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 55232
Posted: March 25 2012 at 10:05pm

Aha! Eric has the answer.
10+ feet of drain makes plenty of room to back up the flow with a valve which can completely quiet the sound of water falling down the drain piping. A long/large screen on top will keep it flowing and prevent a flood.]]> Sun, 25 Mar 2012 22:05:40 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457672&title=system-kinks#457672 <![CDATA[System Kinks : Tanuki, Remember we kinda talked...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457546&title=system-kinks#457546 Author: Aquarium Creations
Subject: 55232
Posted: March 25 2012 at 12:43pm

Tanuki, Remember we kinda talked about this when i was at your house and said thats crazy loud. give me a call then you get a chance we can make it allot quieter but you will still have a little nose cause of the 10+ feet of drain..  ]]> Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:43:07 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457546&title=system-kinks#457546 <![CDATA[System Kinks : Tanuki wrote:I have a...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457434&title=system-kinks#457434 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 55232
Posted: March 24 2012 at 11:46am

Originally posted by Tanuki Tanuki wrote:

I have a ball valve on the return line in the garage.  When I open it all the way the sound is worse, but when it is nearly closed it does go down a little bit....
I don't think I can sleep another night with the noise.
Earplugs? Wink
Try these things to see what happens:

Turn off the return pump and listen for when the noise stops. If it stops immediately or almost immediately, this tells you that it has to do with the return side, the powered side of the system. If it keeps going while the pump is off but while the major portion of water is draining that tells you it is the draining side of the system.

Place your hand over part of the overflow to change where and how the water is falling. What does that do to the sound?

What style are the overflow standpipes? Durso or something else? Is there a valve on the drain line where you can change the water flow coming into the sump/Refugium?

Do you remember how my large 2 section frag tank was set up? It was completely quiet and yet it had a flow down the drain of almost 1200 gph. I'd be happy to help you get this fixed. Smile


Edited by Mark Peterson - March 24 2012 at 11:49am]]> Sat, 24 Mar 2012 11:46:07 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457434&title=system-kinks#457434 <![CDATA[System Kinks : That is interesting. Any chance...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457327&title=system-kinks#457327 Author: Fatman
Subject: 55232
Posted: March 23 2012 at 3:31pm

That is interesting. Any chance you have something (small part) in the return line that is stuck at the elbow?]]> Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:31:16 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457327&title=system-kinks#457327 <![CDATA[System Kinks : Oh the noise is in the overflow...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457263&title=system-kinks#457263 Author: Tanuki
Subject: 55232
Posted: March 23 2012 at 10:47am

Oh the noise is in the overflow chamber.  It is also specific to that side. so it has to be around there I think.  ]]> Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:47:46 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457263&title=system-kinks#457263 <![CDATA[System Kinks : I was thinking a loose fitting...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457256&title=system-kinks#457256 Author: BobC63
Subject: 55232
Posted: March 23 2012 at 10:40am

I was thinking a loose fitting sucking in air... but you would be getting alot of bubbles / micro bubbles if that were the case.
 
So possibly some resonation, especially if it gets 'worse" with the ball joint full open.
 
I would start by looking at the holes where the pipe passes thorugh the walls and see if there is any contact or noticeable vibration.
 
 
]]> Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:40:55 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457256&title=system-kinks#457256 <![CDATA[System Kinks : could the pipes be resonating/...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457250&title=system-kinks#457250 Author: Tanuki
Subject: 55232
Posted: March 23 2012 at 10:26am

could the pipes be resonating/ shaking?]]> Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:26:10 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457250&title=system-kinks#457250 <![CDATA[System Kinks : No air bubbles. The water is a...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457248&title=system-kinks#457248 Author: Tanuki
Subject: 55232
Posted: March 23 2012 at 10:06am

No air bubbles.  The water is a bit murky though right now though from the sand moving. ]]> Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:06:19 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457248&title=system-kinks#457248 <![CDATA[System Kinks : Brent - Are you getting any...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457247&title=system-kinks#457247 Author: BobC63
Subject: 55232
Posted: March 23 2012 at 10:02am

Brent -
 
Are you getting any air bubbles coming from that return?
]]> Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:02:47 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457247&title=system-kinks#457247 <![CDATA[System Kinks : It maintains the sound.I have...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55232&PID=457246&title=system-kinks#457246 Author: Tanuki
Subject: 55232
Posted: March 23 2012 at 9:59am

It maintains the sound.

I have a ball valve on the return line in the garage.  When I open it all the way the sound is worse, but when it is nearly closed it does go down a little bit.

I am wondering if maybe the nuts on the return lines arent tight enough? I am not sure.  I haven't completely closed the ball valve either, but that is for obvious reasons. 

I will pay someone to come fix it if they can this afternoon. 

I don't think I can sleep another night with the noise.
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