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   <title><![CDATA[Bad news : I too would advise a 100% water...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2264">DLindquist</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60554<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;30&nbsp;2012 at 4:19pm<br /><br />I too would advise a 100% water change. If there is copper in your system, there is still hope. Even for a full blown reef. We had a very unfortunate experience with some copper laced carbon about six months ago. Our water tested out near .10 and we lost many prized coral colonies. Running some heavy metal sponges (which run about $20 ea.) will absorb the copper out of the system. While I am not set up to test copper levels, I would be happy to swing by and see what I could do to help.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Bad news : If you find that you have copper...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4009">Molli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60554<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;30&nbsp;2012 at 8:33am<br /><br />If you find that you have copper in your tank, it will bind to the rock and to the sand.&nbsp; I've heard it can even bind to the silicone seals, but that it takes a lot of copper to do that.&nbsp; If it were me, I'd test for copper.&nbsp; If you have copper I think you either need to turn it into a fish-only tank or remove absolutely everything out of the tank and start over again.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Bad news : I agree with dion, 100% water...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3435">ReefOn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60554<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;30&nbsp;2012 at 7:30am<br /><br />I agree with dion, 100% water change. There are a lot of things that could be in the water that we can't test for (without sending it to a lab). The only twist I would add is to get 5% of your 100% water change from another, stable, aquarium. Use a lot of carbon over the next few weeks. Inverts are not only killed by copper, any heavy metal can kill them.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Bad news : Get a Cu test. I have one you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3478">Trevor40</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60554<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;30&nbsp;2012 at 7:20am<br /><br />Get a Cu test. I have one you can buy for $5]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Bad news : You might run some carbon in a...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3761">Fatman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60554<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;29&nbsp;2012 at 10:48pm<br /><br />You might run some carbon in a reactor, it couldn't hurt and pulles the harmful things out of the water.<br /><br />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Bad news : There are other factors that are...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=861">Dion Richins</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60554<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;29&nbsp;2012 at 7:05pm<br /><br />There are other factors that are in play when a pump burns out like that. The electrical shock to the system, the burnt oil in the tank and micro pollutants that are now involved. I had a maxi jet 1200 do this in my sump of a 180g tank. Devastated it in 2 days. I did 20% water changes with not much help. Did the 100% water change and it looked 100% better the next morning.]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Bad news : All inverts and coral sounds like...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1754">chuckfu</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60554<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;29&nbsp;2012 at 6:45pm<br /><br />All inverts and coral sounds like copper]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Bad news : If it were me (and I have had...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=861">Dion Richins</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60554<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;29&nbsp;2012 at 6:23pm<br /><br />If it were me (and I have had this happen) Do a 100% or as close to it as possible. Make sure the salinity is the same and the temp is the same. Drain and imediatly refill. ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Bad news : Ok so i tested everything except...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3581">boingodude</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60554<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;29&nbsp;2012 at 5:49pm<br /><br />Ok so i tested everything except for Calcium and all of the parameters look good. Not sure what is going on. I will change out another 5 gallons tomorrow night. Fish seem to be eating ok. The corals just look real bad.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Bad news : Do you have the equipment you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4009">Molli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60554<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;29&nbsp;2012 at 5:14pm<br /><br />Do you have the equipment you would need to pull out the living things and put them in something like a big rubbermaid tub with new fresh water, with heater, circulation, etc. just to get them out of the system that may be killing them until you figure out what is going on in your tank?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ]]>
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