WMAS Discussion Forum : Modified Maxijets http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 18 Jul 2026 14:00:34 +0000 Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:31:37 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=16960 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Modified Maxijets : Adam Blundell wrote:Jon- I&#039;m...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149431&title=modified-maxijets#149431 Author: sshm
Subject: 16960
Posted: March 13 2007 at 1:31pm

Originally posted by Adam Blundell Adam Blundell wrote:

Jon- I'm still not sold on random. 
(obviously since I don't use it)
"Alternating Laminar Flow" that is the term baby, oh yah. 
 


I like random. Waves crashing over a reef away from the shore and waves gently rolling into and out of the coast are two different flow patterns. the first in random and the second is laminar and alternating (with one direction -the "backwash" if you will - being a little less violent than the other).

Edited by sshm - March 13 2007 at 1:32pm]]> Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:31:37 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149431&title=modified-maxijets#149431 <![CDATA[Modified Maxijets : Yep, true dat. That&#039;s why...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149410&title=modified-maxijets#149410 Author: Adam Blundell
Subject: 16960
Posted: March 13 2007 at 12:32pm

Yep, true dat.  That's why you want your entire tank sloshing back and forth.... regardless of what Jake's overy paranoia tells you about the tank walking across the room or the stand collapsing.  It isn't fast flow, but it is bulk flow.
Adam
]]> Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:32:24 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149410&title=modified-maxijets#149410 <![CDATA[Modified Maxijets : But can&#039;t you have too much...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149405&title=modified-maxijets#149405 Author: Guests
Subject: 16960
Posted: March 13 2007 at 12:08pm

But can't you have too much flow if it's in the wrong direction?  I've lost 2 LPS' because their tissue was blown right off from too much flow.

]]> Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:08:57 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149405&title=modified-maxijets#149405 <![CDATA[Modified Maxijets : Jon- I&#039;m still not sold on...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149403&title=modified-maxijets#149403 Author: Adam Blundell
Subject: 16960
Posted: March 13 2007 at 12:02pm

Jon- I'm still not sold on random. 
(obviously since I don't use it)
"Alternating Laminar Flow" that is the term baby, oh yah.  That's what you're shooting for.
Adam
 


Edited by Adam Blundell - March 13 2007 at 12:02pm]]> Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:02:12 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149403&title=modified-maxijets#149403 <![CDATA[Modified Maxijets : Well it&#039;s been my anecdotal...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149400&title=modified-maxijets#149400 Author: jfinch
Subject: 16960
Posted: March 13 2007 at 11:49am

Well it's been my anecdotal observation in my tanks that having lots of steady (however you'd like to describe it) flow ranked a 10 in the importance scale, while converting this steady flow to be more random ranked a 2.  I would have ranked it a 1 but aesthetically I like the look that the random flow produced.
 
I realize I'm likely standing alone in this opinion because every speaker we bring and every article I read preaches random flow.
]]> Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:49:12 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149400&title=modified-maxijets#149400 <![CDATA[Modified Maxijets : When you set up that next tank...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149398&title=modified-maxijets#149398 Author: Adam Blundell
Subject: 16960
Posted: March 13 2007 at 11:47am

When you set up that next tank I'd consider using a wave box of some sort.  I think they are ugly in a tank, but I have to admit they really do move water back and forth.  Who knows you may end up throwing out your mods after you get a wave box.

Adam
ps- can you tell I'm asking for a wave box for Christmas this year
]]> Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:47:51 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149398&title=modified-maxijets#149398 <![CDATA[Modified Maxijets : Yes, and one last thing. You absolutley...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149397&title=modified-maxijets#149397 Author: DaveB
Subject: 16960
Posted: March 13 2007 at 11:45am

Yes, and one last thing.  You absolutley have to have an easy way to turn them off for feeding, or the food will be surfaced skimmed and down in your sump before anything can eat... LOL
 
Dave
]]> Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:45:45 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149397&title=modified-maxijets#149397 <![CDATA[Modified Maxijets : it actually created a hollow spot...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149395&title=modified-maxijets#149395 Author: Adam Blundell
Subject: 16960
Posted: March 13 2007 at 11:39am

it actually created a hollow spot in the sandbed at the center bottom of the tank, and my LPS would not open up fully
Tell me about it.LOL
Adam
]]> Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:39:30 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149395&title=modified-maxijets#149395 <![CDATA[Modified Maxijets : Actually Adam, I have spent quite...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149393&title=modified-maxijets#149393 Author: DaveB
Subject: 16960
Posted: March 13 2007 at 11:38am

Actually Adam, I have spent quite a bit of time watching the flow, especially when both are on, and the flow collides.   Random or chaotic, whichever term you prefer, is exactly what happens.  All of this is affected by the size of the tank, the placement of live rock.  All I am saying is, that with two of these pumps, on timers the way I described above, my water quality, skimming, ORP readings have all improved dramatically.  I no longer have ANY dead spots anywhere in the tank.  I would reccomend the use of these MODs to anyone.  And they are not really any more obtrusive in the tank than the outputs from the closed loop, for they are actually not very big for the amount of flow they put out..
 
This year, I am working on putting a 180 along with my 110 into a two tank inwall system.  I am anxious to see how they work in a much larger tank.  I am sure the dynamics will be very much different in a larger tank.
 
I have been thinking about using four of them in the 180, sort of corner mounted  and coming on and off around the clock so to speak, using timers, much the same way a FOUR WAY OM would work.
 
Dave
]]> Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:38:47 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149393&title=modified-maxijets#149393 <![CDATA[Modified Maxijets : Yes Jon, I did run them both all...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16960&PID=149392&title=modified-maxijets#149392 Author: DaveB
Subject: 16960
Posted: March 13 2007 at 11:29am

Yes Jon, I did run them both all the time at first.  On my 110, which is only a four foot tank it was too much to have them both on all the time.  When the flow met at the center of the tank, on all the time, it actually created a hollow spot in the sandbed at the center bottom of the tank, and my LPS would not open up fully.  It was TOO much flow for this size tank to have them both on all the time.

Dave
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