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   <title><![CDATA[Worlds First Floating Refugium? : Cool thread! Thanks for reposting...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2678">tropi_gal</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2026<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;09&nbsp;2009 at 8:21pm<br /><br />Cool thread! Thanks for reposting it to catch us "noobs" up.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Worlds First Floating Refugium? : 5 years and still floating. Cool....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2026<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;09&nbsp;2009 at 4:15pm<br /><br /><P>5 years and still floating. <img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" />&nbsp;Cool. I'm&nbsp;pleased to be wrong.<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mark Peterson - October&nbsp;09&nbsp;2009 at 4:23pm</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Worlds First Floating Refugium? : Since we are back on the subject...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Will Spencer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2026<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;09&nbsp;2009 at 3:43pm<br /><br />Since we are back on the subject of sumps and I have found this super old thread here is an update. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I am still using the same styro box for the refugium.&nbsp; Very little about how this is set up has changed.&nbsp; I do now have a new better skimmer and a UV sterilizer, but other than that everything has almost not even been moved.&nbsp; I still use filter socks.&nbsp; I still run the same pump, the styro is the same with the same sand in it.&nbsp; The sand has been relatively undisturbed.&nbsp; I still have most of the same rock in the refuge with a few pieces added and probably a few pieces removed along the way.&nbsp; One other difference is I have moved from using Caulerpa algae to using Chaeto instead.&nbsp; Also the growth of the macro algae has slowed way down from when this was originally posted.&nbsp; One last change...this thing is no longer bright and sparkly.&nbsp; It is quite a mess now.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>OK, so these pics were used in my cleaning a tank presentation so the idea was they should start out dirty.&nbsp; This sump now looks at least 5% cleaner so don't think I'm a aquarium slob.&nbsp; At least not with these pics as the only evidence.<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/uploads/213/sump1_Small.jpg" height="426" width="640" border="0" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/uploads/213/Sump_2_Small.jpg" height="426" width="640" border="0" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/uploads/213/Sump_3_Small.jpg" height="426" width="640" border="0" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/uploads/213/Sump_4_Small.jpg" height="426" width="640" border="0" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>As you may notice the styro has broken down a little.&nbsp; The sides look a bit pitted, but it is still holding up very well, and still floats when the water level rises in the sump.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>On rare occasion I get floating styro pieces in the sump, but that usually happens when I mess with stuff in the sump and knock the refuge around a bit.&nbsp; They float so they are very easy to scoop out with a net.&nbsp; I have had no&nbsp;problems in my tank that I can trace back to chemicals leaching from the styro.&nbsp; I don't think all the cyano in the refuge has anything to do with the materials in it, but rather a lackadaisical feeding process, which I&nbsp; have actually&nbsp;assessed and fixed in the last week.&nbsp; We'll see if that fixes the algae thing.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Anyway, I hope this update is at least entertaining, if not informative.</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Worlds First Floating Refugium? : will your setup is really cool!!!!!...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">bugzme</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2026<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August&nbsp;30&nbsp;2004 at 5:05pm<br /><br />will your setup is really cool!!!!! i basically did what you did but i used plastic buckets. i saw your tank and it is awesome. the mushrooms you gave me are overgrowing their space&nbsp; thanks----Jeff]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Worlds First Floating Refugium? : It was worth it. Thanks. ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2026<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August&nbsp;24&nbsp;2004 at 7:26am<br /><br />It was worth it. Thanks.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Worlds First Floating Refugium? : OK Jared! It took me two months...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Will Spencer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2026<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August&nbsp;23&nbsp;2004 at 10:37pm<br /><br /><P>OK Jared!&nbsp; It took me two months and another request by Bugzme, but I finally got more pictures.</P><P>My floating refugium has been in the sump now for around&nbsp;8 months.&nbsp; It seems to be holding up well, but I have had macro attaching itself to the sides and that seems to have started to break down the styrofoam a little.&nbsp; Not enough to worry about though.&nbsp; My tank has never looked better so if it is putting stuff into the water it must be "good" stuff.<IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"></P><P>Here's the full sump.&nbsp; As you can see I've added a skimmer since the last pics.</P><P><IMG src="../forum/uploads/wsinbad1/2004-08-23_232722_Full_Sump.jpg" border="0"></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Here is the Protien skimmer side of the sump.&nbsp; this side also houses the return pump.</P><P><IMG src="../forum/uploads/wsinbad1/2004-08-23_232816_Protien_Skimmer_side.jpg" border="0"></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>This is the filter sock side.</P><P><IMG src="../forum/uploads/wsinbad1/2004-08-23_232846_Sock_Side.jpg" border="0"></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The filter sock side of the refugium I use as a frag area.&nbsp; When it's not overgrown with Macro.</P><P><IMG src="../forum/uploads/wsinbad1/2004-08-23_233224_Frags_in_sump.jpg" border="0"></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Each side of the refugium has 6 holes drilled in it near the top.&nbsp; I have to clean the macro out of them every once in a while to keep them flowing.&nbsp; Also here you can see the deterioration on the top lip of the styrofoam box.&nbsp; I believe this is caused by the PC lighting that is on 24 hours now.&nbsp; Not to mention the Hermit Crabs that seem to love crawling around up here.</P><P><IMG src="../forum/uploads/wsinbad1/2004-08-23_232913_Refugia_drainage.jpg" border="0"></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The other&nbsp;side of the refugium seems to grow macro very well.</P><P><IMG src="../forum/uploads/wsinbad1/2004-08-23_232937_Macro.jpg" border="0"></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>All of this keeps my shy guys...</P><P><IMG src="../forum/uploads/wsinbad1/2004-08-23_233002_Shy_guy.jpg" border="0"></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>and&nbsp;their roudy friend, very happy.<IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0">&nbsp; (Couldn't resist the extra pics.)</P><P><IMG src="../forum/uploads/wsinbad1/2004-08-23_233024_sailfin.jpg" border="0"></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>(P.S. sorry for the long download for all those with slow internet connections.&nbsp; Hope it was worth the time.)</P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by wsinbad1</span>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=444">Jared Wood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2026<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;23&nbsp;2004 at 11:49am<br /><br /><P>Cool.&nbsp; I really like the floating refugium idea.&nbsp; Thanks to your experience&nbsp;I'll be able to&nbsp;do it on purpose instead of by accident. <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0">&nbsp;</P><P>I hope you can get some picture up soon.</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Worlds First Floating Refugium? : Jared, The refugium is doing great....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Will Spencer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2026<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;21&nbsp;2004 at 7:11pm<br /><br /><P>Jared, The refugium is doing great.&nbsp; I have not noticed any problem at all with degrading.&nbsp; This is not to say that it still won't,&nbsp; but everything still looks fine.&nbsp; I actually have about 20 small hermits in it now and was afraid that they might pick at it, but so far they don't seem interested and they've been in there for over a month.&nbsp; As far as light or UV degrading it I haven't seen anything there either, but I recently took out a Home Depot light that was on the opposite side of the sump from the refugium and replaced it with a 55 watt PC I had kicking around, placed right over the refugium.&nbsp; I don't know if this will cause a problem for the sump, but I would guess not since any light or UV would have to penetrate the Macro Algae that is now growing rather well in there.</P><P>I'll post some pics when I can get some, but I guess my wife took off with the camera this evening.</P><P>Richard L., sure the box is free, but the stuff the LFS wants you to put in it can be pricey.&nbsp; I've gotten several of these boxes, but each time I've&nbsp;purchased $70-$140 worth of "stuff" to put in it.&nbsp; Is there anyone who can honestly go into an LFS without spending too much money?&nbsp; If there is it's not me.<IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 19:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Worlds First Floating Refugium? : You can get free boxes at any...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=316">Richard L.</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2026<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;21&nbsp;2004 at 2:58pm<br /><br />You can get free boxes at any of the LFS.&nbsp; I have picked several in the past for transporting livestock over some distance.&nbsp; Just ask the proprietor, they are free!]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Worlds First Floating Refugium? : So Will, How about an update...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=444">Jared Wood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2026<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;21&nbsp;2004 at 2:01pm<br /><br /><P>So Will,</P><P>How about an update on this?&nbsp; It has been almost 4 months.&nbsp; I asked you about it Thursday night and you said it was holding up fine.&nbsp; Can you give us any more details?&nbsp; Do you every get little bits of styrofoam floating around?&nbsp;&nbsp;I'd like to see&nbsp;a picture or two. </P>]]>
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