WMAS Discussion Forum : Bubbles in Refugium http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:36:49 +0000 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:48:58 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=21253 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Bubbles in Refugium : Thanks for the update. You are...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=190364&title=bubbles-in-refugium#190364 Author: Mike Savage
Subject: 21253
Posted: November 02 2007 at 1:48pm

Thanks for the update. You are on your way now!
 
Mike
]]> Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:48:58 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=190364&title=bubbles-in-refugium#190364 <![CDATA[Bubbles in Refugium : Well, here&#039;s an update. Got...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=190287&title=bubbles-in-refugium#190287 Author: vfrocket
Subject: 21253
Posted: November 02 2007 at 7:18am

Well, here's an update. Got the refugium thing figured out. The bubbles seemed to subside some more when I got the salt mix stablized. Added live sand a few days ago to the main tank and everything finally settled. This week I will go get som live rock for the main tank, and also mud for the fuge... I will keep you posted.
 
Also forgot to mention to thoes who may ask. lighting is 3 250 watt 10K MH and 2 actinic VHO bulbs.
 
Hope to have specimens in the tank by Christmas.


Edited by vfrocket - November 02 2007 at 7:20am]]> Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:18:00 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=190287&title=bubbles-in-refugium#190287 <![CDATA[Bubbles in Refugium : A formula for screens..... Input...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187816&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187816 Author: Gahlenfr
Subject: 21253
Posted: October 23 2007 at 6:26pm

A formula for screens..... Input > Output = Flood!   IME.  Make sure you clean your screen very reqularly!

Edited by Gahlenfr - October 23 2007 at 6:27pm]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:26:44 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187816&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187816 <![CDATA[Bubbles in Refugium : Definitely a good idea to put...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187591&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187591 Author: Mike Savage
Subject: 21253
Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:28am

Definitely a good idea to put some sort of screen on the intake side to prevent snails and fish from taking a wild ride.
 
Mike
]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:28:51 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187591&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187591 <![CDATA[Bubbles in Refugium : I lost my Mandrin Goby for 2 monthes...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187587&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187587 Author: bannshy
Subject: 21253
Posted: October 23 2007 at 7:43am

I lost my Mandrin Goby for 2 monthes and on my birthday I found it in the sump (it was a cool present) I think a valve on the overflow line would have caught the Mandrin half way down and i would have lost even more flow. also I have never put a snail in my fuge but it is full of them they travel down the pipe. just my experence.
 
jeremy
]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:43:45 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187587&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187587 <![CDATA[Bubbles in Refugium : I put a PVC ball valve on there...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187586&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187586 Author: vfrocket
Subject: 21253
Posted: October 23 2007 at 5:37am

I put a PVC ball valve on there and it seemed to do the trick. I didnt even need to turn it but a little. It seems all it needed was a little resistance...
 
thanks for the ideas, now on to live sand, rocks, and mud in the refugium...  I'll keep you updated.
]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:37:59 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187586&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187586 <![CDATA[Bubbles in Refugium : Dion, I agree with you, but...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187107&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187107 Author: Corey Price
Subject: 21253
Posted: October 20 2007 at 5:30pm

Dion,
 
I agree with you, but come see my tank drains- no air.  Full Siphon.  No durso- the method is backing up the flow just the right amount.  I have no bubbles from my drains because there isn't any air in them.  I can show you that you can flow just as much water without air as with.  My drains handle all of the Sequence pump and could go even more.
]]> Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:30:47 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187107&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187107 <![CDATA[Bubbles in Refugium : I&#039;m not going to argue with...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187073&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187073 Author: Dion Richins
Subject: 21253
Posted: October 20 2007 at 11:29am

I'm not going to argue with you CoreyWink but it does require air to drain with any kind of speed. With out a "vent" (air supply) water will drain very slow. Even with valving off a drain you still have a air supply from the durso above. You just slow the flow to the point of dropping the water slower than the air can hang on. If you've ever been involved with plumbing a house, this will make sense. ALL drains have a vent. Sink, Toilet, etc. If you block off the vent to any of these your item will drain very slow or GLUG back up like a liquid jug poured to fast. (hence the new gas cans with self venting)
 
So while its true it will drain, with out air it will be slow or inefficient. In this case that may be a good thing unless the valve gets any more plugged off and then the risk of flooding occurs.
]]> Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:29:40 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187073&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187073 <![CDATA[Bubbles in Refugium : Thanks for the ideas, I think...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187058&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187058 Author: vfrocket
Subject: 21253
Posted: October 20 2007 at 5:20am

Thanks for the ideas, I think part of the problem is also that one overflow is closer to the fuge than the other and the longer tube has time to build some pressure before dumping into the  fuge. I will try a valve and see if that helps, otherwise I will just get used to it.
 
Thanks for all the great advise.
]]> Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:20:55 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187058&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187058 <![CDATA[Bubbles in Refugium : Yep, either plan for the bubbles...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187049&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187049 Author: Corey Price
Subject: 21253
Posted: October 20 2007 at 12:52am

Yep, either plan for the bubbles or valve the drains.  Sorry Dion, but water doesn't need air to flow Wink.  If you want no bubbles, put in a gate valve on the drains, but also put in safety drains like Dion was talking about.  Valves on drains make the drain a pure siphon, but you need a screened drain intake so that stuff doesn't plug the drain at the valve.  If you can stand it, use a filter sock if you don't want to valve it.  Filter socks tend to reduce the bubbles greatly.  Baffles will also help, giving the bubbles in the water currents more time to get rid of the air.  Also, a bit of macroalgae and/or LR rubble might help as well.]]> Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:52:32 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21253&PID=187049&title=bubbles-in-refugium#187049