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   <title><![CDATA[Declining Anem&#111;ne : That&amp;#039;s ok, but I agree 100%...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=96">jfinch</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2653<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;04&nbsp;2004 at 5:32pm<br /><br />That's ok, but I agree 100% with Carl on carbon placement.&nbsp; It will work best in it's own container with water forced through it.&nbsp; But in a pinch just through a little in a pouch and set in your sump where the water flow is greatest (usually near the inlet or at the return pump suction or in a spot designed in your sump&nbsp;to hold media bags).&nbsp;]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Declining Anem&#111;ne : Would my floss bag be the best...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2653<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;04&nbsp;2004 at 3:24pm<br /><br /><P>Would my floss bag be the best place for the carbon if it were in a sock or something?</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Declining Anem&#111;ne : Carbon works by adsorbtion. AC...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=96">jfinch</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2653<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;04&nbsp;2004 at 3:11pm<br /><br /><P>Carbon works by adsorbtion.&nbsp; AC is very hydrophopic (that means it repels water).&nbsp; Almost all the hydrophopic molecules you might find in your reef tank water are ogranics.&nbsp; Essentially the same stuff that your skimmer removes.&nbsp; Any molecule that floats&nbsp;by AC and is itself hydrophopic will adhere to the carbon surface (hence adsorbtion).&nbsp; Once attached it is very unlikely to release.&nbsp; It might release if the carbon suface was completely filled with hydrophopic molecules and a molecule even more hydrophopic were to come by.&nbsp; That really hydrophopic molecule might displace one of the weaker ones.&nbsp; Backflushing and watching DP is only a concern if you have particulate matter that physically plugs the spaces between carbon pieces.&nbsp; If this is a problem, a solids (mechanical) filter in line upstream of the carbon would help to fix it.</P><P>Oh Carl, I think you mean that AC removes chlorine.&nbsp; Chlorine is not chloride.</P><P>ClO- + C = Cl- + C-O<BR>hypochloride + activated carbon = chloride + oxidized carbon</P><P>&nbsp;</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Declining Anem&#111;ne : Carbon does not have a useable...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=240">Carl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2653<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;04&nbsp;2004 at 11:41am<br /><br /><P>Carbon does not have a useable life per say. It really depends on the levels of the contaminants in the wastestream. Once the AC media is impacted (it cannot adsorb or absorb anymore) it is no longer useful. When that is... who knows. I would look at the flow through the media and perform a calculation of how many times your total water volume would have passed through. The more total passes, the better. </P><P>Personally, I don't run AC. I guess if I did I would run it a week (depending on the size of the media bed I use) and flush it out really well. If you want to just leave it in the system, it won't leach or permeate anything bad except what was already in your system. You could make it a habit to flush it out really well every couple of weeks to a month with a water change. Most of what you will remove will be organics or particulates. I would say that after 3 or so uses it is spent. </P><P>Of course one could place it into a vessel and monitor the fluid pressure through. When the fluid&nbsp;pressure gets to X-psi, it's time to backflush. If backflushing fails to&nbsp;lower the pressure, it's time to replace the media. But, that sure does sound like alot of work!</P><P>As a side note, did you know that AC removes chlorides <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0">&nbsp;. And you wondered why your SG dropped when you ran AC!<IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0">&nbsp;Honestly, it absorbs a trace amount... don't worry.</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Declining Anem&#111;ne : How often do you need to change...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2653<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;04&nbsp;2004 at 11:00am<br /><br />How often do you need to change carbon?]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Declining Anem&#111;ne :   Mark Peterson wrote:Alternatively,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=240">Carl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2653<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;04&nbsp;2004 at 10:43am<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mark Peterson" alt="Originally posted by Mark Peterson" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mark Peterson wrote:</strong><br /><br />Alternatively, I would use carbon. Place a fist sized bag in an area of good water flow, like hang it around a pump inlet. Carbon will remove chemicals from the water that you cannot easily test for and will also remove a few that skimming cannot.&nbsp;</td></tr></table> </P><P>Just wanted to add a bit of explanation to ensure that people use it properly. Activated carbon is a variety of orcanics that have been burnt. It could be husks, crushed bone, crushed coconut shell, whatever. The burning process causes it to have many fractures, cracks and voids.</P><P>Water flows through the filter BED of AC. contaminants are then ADsorbed or ABsorbed by the AC. Generally, carbon utilizes ADsorbtion which basically means that particulates of contaminants get caught by the media (AC).</P><P>A couple of important points: 1.) just sticking a bag of AC media into a volume of water provides very little benefit. Water must flow through the media for it to be effective. 2.) AC can be "Backflushed" which means that the water flow can be reversed flushing the ADsorbed contaminants off of or out of the media and back into the wastestream. Be cautious when removing or placing the AC media in systems since one can easily send a concentration of contaminants back into the system.</P><P>Different "formulas" of AC are available to target different varieties of contaminants. Most (too general?) are designed to remove suspended particulate and light metals.</P><P>I guess I am a filtration <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley23.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=215">Beware</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2653<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;03&nbsp;2004 at 8:26pm<br /><br />I got me a fine one at Aquatica.&nbsp; Anyway I also got my RO unit today and am so excited!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Declining Anem&#111;ne : I believe they have good quality...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=395">reptoreef</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2653<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;03&nbsp;2004 at 12:02pm<br /><br />I believe they have good quality micron bags at birdworld and msm. I'm not big on Marc Weiss products, but that's just MO.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Declining Anem&#111;ne : I actually finished a batch of...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=215">Beware</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2653<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;03&nbsp;2004 at 12:32am<br /><br />I actually finished a batch of coral food yesterday.&nbsp; Its got lots of good stuff and is puree.&nbsp; Anyway I ended up with 2x as much as expected so I got about a 2 years supply.&nbsp; Where does one get an 800 micron bag?&nbsp; I only have access to Aquatica, Petco, and PetsMart, do they sell them?&nbsp; Ironic too Shaun wanted me to get both those products for my tank...]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Declining Anem&#111;ne : The fact of the cyano disappearing...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2653<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;02&nbsp;2004 at 7:21pm<br /><br />The fact of the cyano disappearing is definitely indication of a change which is usually good, but of course some would have it the way it was...it's hard to please everyone! <img border="0" src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"><br /><br />In your case I wouldn't rely too much on the carbon but would try some invert food, like Sprung's Marine Snow or Marc Weiss' Black Powder and/or your own frozen food pulverized and fed to the tank along with the usual feedings.]]>
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