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   <title><![CDATA[&quot;Frag Fest&quot; : Okay I think I got all the suggestions....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5">Adam Blundell</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 30619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;08&nbsp;2009 at 1:56pm<br /><br />Okay I think I got all the suggestions.&nbsp; I'll print them off for the next pres meeting.&nbsp; <DIV>If anyone else has suggestions, please pm them to me.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thanks</DIV><DIV>Adam</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[&quot;Frag Fest&quot; :   EagleEyez5 wrote:  Jeff Morrill...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1626">Debbles</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 30619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;08&nbsp;2009 at 1:52pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by EagleEyez5" alt="Originally posted by EagleEyez5" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>EagleEyez5 wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Jeff Morrill" alt="Originally posted by Jeff Morrill" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Jeff Morrill wrote:</strong><br /><br />almost made it a week , Drama free. The fab 5 Strike again<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" />, <BR><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></td></tr></table> <BR><BR>Why don't you and I just finish this in the parking lot and then LET IT GO, obviously you have a problem with me so lets just get it over with. <BR><BR>All I want to do is make this club better, but every time I make a suggestion, you come out with some smart ass remark, or your wife bashes it, and I am tired of it. I am the one who should have a problem with you for all of the crap you pulled in the past with myself and my family, but I have let it go. If you can't let it go, then lets finish it so that you can.<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <BR><BR>If you think I am joking, then meet me somewhere and lets put an end to this crap. Quit hiding behind your keyboard. <BR><BR>{if memory serves me right, in middle school when guys fight, they are usually friends afterward} <BR></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Excuse me, who is the one sending me smart ass pm's and putting your dumb ass sig lines up about me during elections?&nbsp; You are the one hiding behind the keyboard cutting me down all the time.&nbsp; What WE did to your family?&nbsp; Whoa, step back and rethink that one.&nbsp; And by the way, thanks for posting your threat for all to see.&nbsp; Your level of maturity just suprises me everyday.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Deb<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" /></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[&quot;Frag Fest&quot; : I don&amp;#039;t see the problem....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2150">Andreason</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 30619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;08&nbsp;2009 at 1:47pm<br /><br />I don't see the problem. Looks like we already plan to do both swaps and fests! We are lucky! I know things are not all laid out yet, but if&nbsp;members&nbsp;know it is coming up they can frag things way early to make sure they are looking good and well healed. Plus those who have ideas and suggestions can set aside some time to volunteer to help out and have more input into the process.&nbsp;So keep us updated on the date.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[&quot;Frag Fest&quot; :    Adam Blundell wrote:Again,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1274">sukie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 30619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;08&nbsp;2009 at 1:41pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Adam Blundell" alt="Originally posted by Adam Blundell" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Adam Blundell wrote:</strong><br /><br />Again, to clarify-<div>&nbsp;</div><div>I called Carolyn and told her we didn't need refreshments.&nbsp; On Frag Fest nights many people are looking to get their corals and get home quickly.&nbsp; We don't typically have people staying as late and therefore we never need all the refreshments on those nights.&nbsp; She offered to have someone else bring them to the meeting (my sister actually volunteered to get them) but again I told her it wasn't necessary.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</td></tr></table><br><br><b>what!!!</b>&nbsp; Adam now you know why I was so Da** grumpy at the meeting - those snacks keep me alive!!!<br><br>Heil told me she was snowed in. . . I feel lied to!<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1801">EagleEyez5</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 30619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;08&nbsp;2009 at 1:40pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Jeff Morrill" alt="Originally posted by Jeff Morrill" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Jeff Morrill wrote:</strong><br /><br />almost made it a week , Drama free. The fab 5 Strike again<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" />, <br /><div> </div><br /><div> </div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Why don't you and I just finish this in the parking lot and then LET IT GO, obviously you have a problem with me so lets just get it over with. <br /><br />All I want to do is make this club better, but every time I make a suggestion, you come out with some smart ass remark, or your wife bashes it, and I am tired of it. I am the one who should have a problem with you for all of the crap you pulled in the past with myself and my family, but I have let it go. If you can't let it go, then lets finish it so that you can.<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <br /><br />If you think I am joking, then meet me somewhere and lets put an end to this crap. Quit hiding behind your keyboard.<br /><br />{if memory serves me right, in middle school when guys fight, they are usually friends afterward}<br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1930">dew2loud1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 30619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;08&nbsp;2009 at 1:35pm<br /><br />Thats good, I'm glad the club brought in a good amount of money,<br>It just seems that the way its setup now its putting undue amounts of work on the presidency, I know how stressful it is to frag things up and how long it takes and I have a ton of respect for everyone donating their time, I would have been there but had to work...<br><br>As the club grows and gets larger there are more and more opportunities to expand and I'm glad to see that we are hopefully doing just that.<br>If you need any help with the fall conference let me know I'll be glad to help out if I can.<br>I strongly recommend that we try the fragswapper format for it as well and see how it goes.<br><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[&quot;Frag Fest&quot; : Again, to clarify-  I called...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5">Adam Blundell</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 30619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;08&nbsp;2009 at 1:27pm<br /><br />Again, to clarify-<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I called Carolyn and told her we didn't need refreshments.&nbsp; On Frag Fest nights many people are looking to get their corals and get home quickly.&nbsp; We don't typically have people staying as late and therefore we never need all the refreshments on those nights.&nbsp; She offered to have someone else bring them to the meeting (my sister actually volunteered to get them) but again I told her it wasn't necessary.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>dew2loud1- yes we know all about that.&nbsp; We have our own mini conference being planned for next fall and we'll have all sorts of tables and coral vendors and people coming from other states.&nbsp; But to answer your question, yes this was certainly well worth doing from a presidency point of view.&nbsp; This Frag Fest went off better than ever before and still brought in $2000.&nbsp; A very successful night all around.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Adam</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[&quot;Frag Fest&quot; :   sukie wrote:   EagleEyez5...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1801">EagleEyez5</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 30619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;08&nbsp;2009 at 1:25pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by sukie" alt="Originally posted by sukie" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>sukie wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by EagleEyez5" alt="Originally posted by EagleEyez5" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>EagleEyez5 wrote:</strong><br /><br />hey sukie, where were the snacks anyway? I had to leave earlier than I wanted because my little boy{being related to me} was eating my wife from the inside out.</td></tr></table>She got snowed in. . . .<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0" alt="Cry" title="Cry" />Â  I too missed the snacks.Â  I mean I didn't really think I would miss something that is always provided every meeting.</td></tr></table> <br />I don't want all of those awesome eclairs to go to waste, tell her I will come pick them up today.  <img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by EagleEyez5 - January&nbsp;08&nbsp;2009 at 1:26pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2033">Jeff Morrill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 30619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;08&nbsp;2009 at 1:24pm<br /><br />almost made it a week , Drama free. The fab 5 Strike again<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" />, <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[&quot;Frag Fest&quot; : Couple questions what was the...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1930">dew2loud1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 30619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;08&nbsp;2009 at 1:22pm<br /><br />Couple questions what was the clubs total profit from this?<br><br>Was it worth it for the presidency members?<br><br>I've mentioned several times how successful fragswapper is,<br><br>Admission can be $5 per person, generally in both of our ohio swaps we had over 300 people (club profit $500 if 100 people show up that aren't selling, not unreasonable).<br><br>Now vendors were charged $10 (included your admission) and you got a five foot table space, we generally had a 10 gallon setup with frags in it. (Generally over 200 individual vendors (club profit at least $2000).<br><br>Now stores were also allowed to come setup most brought a decent frag tank with lighting, we had stores coming from FIVE states away, not unreasonable here as well.&nbsp; Vendors were charged $100-200 I believe.&nbsp; Normally at least&nbsp; ten or so vendors each got 20 feet of space (club profit $1000 and up)&nbsp; Vendors normally sold several thousand so it was well worth their while.<br><br>Now where the presidency comes in, donations were made from local vendors, national organizations, equipment manufacturers etc... These were all raffled off at a profit of generally around $1-5k.<br><br>People keep saying its not about high end corals well its not always, people sell kenya trees and mushrooms for five bucks, but we also dropped $1,000 on LE colonies and frags, we ended up with over 100 pieces.&nbsp; It gives a venue for everyone to be happy, honestly I have no reason to donate a $100 piece of LE undata to the club to sell and then fight a crowd to get beat up acro frags.&nbsp; This way everyone can shop for what they want.<br><br>It's free to setup on fragswapper and corals are listed with pictures a month or more in advance, this gives everyone time to presell and prebuy corals that they want, sellers can bag things up with names on them, buyers can budget ahead and everyone is happy.<br><br>On top of that you can sell hotdogs, sloppy joes etc, pop etc and make another $500 or more.<br>Best thing, no horror stories from everyone about how much a PITA it is to frag everything up, bag it, mark it, bring it to the meeting, organize it, watch it get picked through, then maybe the buyer is lucky and it makes it through the 12 hours of hell without dieing.<br><br>Both ohio clubs profits were generally $5,000-10,000 and everyone was happy....<br>I'm still confused why this seems such a big deal, yes its different from what you've been doing but it makes a heck of a lot more sense to me.&nbsp; Members are happy and can make some money and/or get the corals they want and the club makes money......<br><br>You can also turn it into an event with a speaker as well, check out the link for some ideas...<br><a href="http://www.fragswapper.com/home.asp" target="_blank">http://www.fragswapper.com/home.asp</a><br><br><br>]]>
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