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   <title><![CDATA[New challenges : Thanks Larry.Can&amp;#039;t do another...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 42991<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;06&nbsp;2010 at 1:15pm<br /><br />Thanks Larry.<br>Can't do another wall. The Dentist likes the appearance of the Wall Hanging Aquarium.<br>Thank goodness I have been doing lots of tanks without Sumps/Refugiums lately. I know just how to do it.<br><br>Can you give me a lead to the source for color popping LED's? Our guest speaker didn't know that much about them, but I believe he is willing to look into it to provide me a custom fixture. Any help will be appreciated.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[New challenges : I wish I would have seen this...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1707">larhalli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 42991<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;01&nbsp;2010 at 11:16am<br /><br />I wish I would have seen this post a while back. &nbsp; My thought would have been to build a false wall in front of the existing wall so a deeper tank could be used and you could increase the water volume.&nbsp; Below that a cabinet could be built to house the sump, or whatever else.<br>As for LED lights or fixtures.&nbsp; To build a DIY LED fixture is about the same cost as buying a good combination fixture with metal halide and actinics.&nbsp; A fixture can be made to give that popping effect.&nbsp; You can customize the color combinations to get what you want and in the long run they will save you money over the life of the bulbs because they last about ten years compared to other lights which need to be replaced yearly and are expensive.<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 11:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[New challenges : I agree. ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">bugzme</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 42991<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;01&nbsp;2010 at 10:55am<br /><br />I agree. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3">Jake Pehrson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 42991<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;01&nbsp;2010 at 10:28am<br /><br /><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by bugzme" alt="Originally posted by bugzme" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>bugzme wrote:</strong><br /><br />Sorry but I have seen very few led tanks with colors popping (certain colors do)&nbsp;unless they are supplemented with good t-5's! Maybe I haven't found the site yet but they have awesome growth.</td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I would have to somewhat agree.&nbsp; I use T5s on my own tanks, and for most people T5&nbsp;are the best choice (for now).</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>My point was not that LEDs are better.&nbsp; My point was address to Mark where he said:</DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mark Peterson" alt="Originally posted by Mark Peterson" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mark Peterson wrote:</strong><br /><br />The big problem with LED's is that the manufacturers still haven't caught on to how to use colored LED's to make colors "pop" while growing and fluorescing coral.</td></tr></table> </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Many LED light fixture manufactures&nbsp;are not clueless in regards to reef lighting and they have "caught on".&nbsp; In fact they are pushing the envelope on what can&nbsp;be done with reef lighting.&nbsp; Unfortuanatly most of the LED fixtures that would replace a good T5 setup are too expensive for the average hobbyest, but this will change over time.&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[New challenges :  Small fish? That&amp;#039;s why...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 42991<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August&nbsp;31&nbsp;2010 at 9:31am<br /><br />Small fish? That's why I'll be spending some time with Nano Chris this Thursday.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><br><br>Painting the back of the tank to hide the wallpaper! I wonder if there is a somewhat transparent midnight blue that could be followed up by a mirrored background to give it the appearance of depth. How about a three coats of paint? A haze coating =&gt; aquamarine =&gt; midnight blue.&nbsp; Anyone?<br><br>For aquascaping I have considered black landscape foam but am leaning toward gluing some sand and rubble(LBTR and LR) in reef patterns to the inside back. I hope this will also help make 4" have the appearance of greater depth.<br><br>Jake, please offer suggestions as to where I could get these color popping LED strips.<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mark Peterson - August&nbsp;31&nbsp;2010 at 9:54am</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[New challenges : The only bad thing is once you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2744">CapnMorgan</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 42991<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August&nbsp;30&nbsp;2010 at 5:04pm<br /><br />The only bad thing is once you put them in there it will be a pain to take them out when that little coris wrasse gets to be 6" long. I would go with some of the smaller gobies like hector or rainfords. You could also do firefish, or clown gobies, or even a white rayed shrimp goby. If you could keep the tank cooler a catalina goby would also be cool. You could put a few sexy shrimp in there with a porcelain crab and a coco worm.&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[New challenges : What about using something like...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2798">Luckedout</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 42991<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August&nbsp;30&nbsp;2010 at 4:43pm<br /><br />What about using something like Vida Rock that you can get custom made for the tank. Less headache for you. I would say do a zoa garden with some smaller lps. Then get some small fish. couple small clowns. Maybe a sixline or yellow coris wrasse.&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">bugzme</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 42991<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August&nbsp;30&nbsp;2010 at 4:26pm<br /><br />Sorry but I have seen very few led tanks with colors popping (certain colors do)&nbsp;unless they are supplemented with good t-5's! Maybe I haven't found the site yet but they have awesome growth. ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[New challenges :   Mark Peterson wrote:Yes, he...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3">Jake Pehrson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 42991<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August&nbsp;30&nbsp;2010 at 4:19pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mark Peterson" alt="Originally posted by Mark Peterson" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mark Peterson wrote:</strong><br /><br />Yes, he and I discussed that option. The big problem with LED's is that the manufacturers still haven't caught on to how to use colored LED's to make colors "pop" while growing and fluorescing coral. <BR><BR>Blue/white is just plain, well, stupid. Sorry, but that's what I have said for many years about the PC industry and they just never caught on.<BR></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I would have to disagree.&nbsp; Although the majority of the LED fixtures are using white and blue, there are more and more RGB or RGBY (no whites!).&nbsp; That basically allows you almost an infinite control of your lighting color.&nbsp; Even some of the basic&nbsp;white and blue fixtures are adding some red and greens to help with&nbsp;better coloration.</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[New challenges : I agree with the above post!! ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">bugzme</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 42991<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August&nbsp;27&nbsp;2010 at 4:33pm<br /><br />I agree with the above post!! <img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" title="Clap" />]]>
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