WMAS Discussion Forum : always dies http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 13 Jun 2026 08:56:33 +0000 Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:38:50 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=43815 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[always dies : Hmm, that is pretty bizarre Jake....]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=380387&title=always-dies#380387 Author: Jeffs_little_ocean
Subject: 43815
Posted: October 16 2010 at 1:38pm

Hmm, that is pretty bizarre Jake. Maybe my salifert test kit is off? It certainly hasnt been used much in quite awhile lol. Oh well, even if it is at 8.5, i would be okay with that, although just for kicks, I might start dosing alittle alk and see if things continue to do as well. And yes Chad, i totally agree with Anthony's statement on the importance of water changes.]]> Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:38:50 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=380387&title=always-dies#380387 <![CDATA[always dies : Jeffs_little_ocean wrote:I...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=380368&title=always-dies#380368 Author: jcom
Subject: 43815
Posted: October 16 2010 at 11:56am

Originally posted by Jeffs_little_ocean Jeffs_little_ocean wrote:

I use whatever salt is on sale (im cheap remember:) Right now im about half way through a bucket of oceanic.  Okay so this mornings testing puts cal at 440, alk at 10.2, and mg at 1380, after a year of no dosing, so aparently thats the make-up of oceanic salt... at least in my tank.
 
That's pretty bizarre since Oceanic's ALK is about 8.5   That's what they claim and when I mix it at 1.026, that's where it tests.
]]> Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:56:11 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=380368&title=always-dies#380368 <![CDATA[always dies : I think regular and frequent water...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=380341&title=always-dies#380341 Author: Chad
Subject: 43815
Posted: October 16 2010 at 2:51am

I think regular and frequent water changes should be a little more in focus here also.
Anthony Calfo put it best I think when he said, "dilution is the solution to the pollution!" The salt also helps with supplementation of some things other then just removing pollutants.
]]> Sat, 16 Oct 2010 02:51:39 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=380341&title=always-dies#380341 <![CDATA[always dies : That&#039;s better than I would...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379707&title=always-dies#379707 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 43815
Posted: October 12 2010 at 4:07pm

That's better than I would have expected of Oceanic. If you aren't adding Alk the tank must be. Thumbs Up Count your blessings.]]> Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:07:51 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379707&title=always-dies#379707 <![CDATA[always dies : I use whatever salt is on sale...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379651&title=always-dies#379651 Author: Jeffs_little_ocean
Subject: 43815
Posted: October 12 2010 at 9:42am

I use whatever salt is on sale (im cheap remember:) Right now im about half way through a bucket of oceanic.  Okay so this mornings testing puts cal at 440, alk at 10.2, and mg at 1380, after a year of no dosing, so aparently thats the make-up of oceanic salt... at least in my tank.]]> Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:42:19 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379651&title=always-dies#379651 <![CDATA[always dies : What salt mix are you using? ...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379645&title=always-dies#379645 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 43815
Posted: October 12 2010 at 8:26am

What salt mix are you using?]]> Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:26:00 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379645&title=always-dies#379645 <![CDATA[always dies : Okay Mark, you talked me into...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379579&title=always-dies#379579 Author: Jeffs_little_ocean
Subject: 43815
Posted: October 11 2010 at 8:56pm

Okay Mark, you talked me into it LOL Ive been good about watching sg and doing 10% weekly water changes, but I havent actually tested cal, alk, or mag in over a year.  But tomorrow Im gonna get out the salifert's, blow off the dust, and test away and see where im at. Boy the tank sure is looking good thou, so it cant be too far off.]]> Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:56:40 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379579&title=always-dies#379579 <![CDATA[always dies : &#034;You don&#039;t believe that...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379462&title=always-dies#379462 Author: Spbeyond
Subject: 43815
Posted: October 11 2010 at 9:31am

"You don't believe that your body chemical balances fluctuate due to water/food/air quality on a daily basis? Ok....Shocked"
Yes but your body has a systems of self tests that make sure noting goes out of spec. As does the environment. Our little tanks (unless highly automated) dont have enough of that environmental self control to take care of itself.

Now, most peoples bodys are self controlled, but mine has stopped producing insulin. So i have to TEST 6 times a day to not die a slow, painful and sweaty death ;)

IN the same way our little slices of environment have had that ability to self regulate removed.


Not wanting to start anything though, whatever works, works. ]]> Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:31:50 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379462&title=always-dies#379462 <![CDATA[always dies : I agree completely Mark! ]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379399&title=always-dies#379399 Author: bugzme
Subject: 43815
Posted: October 10 2010 at 8:25pm

I agree completely Mark!]]> Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:25:38 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379399&title=always-dies#379399 <![CDATA[always dies : This thread has become a bit...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379360&title=always-dies#379360 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 43815
Posted: October 10 2010 at 11:31am

This thread has become a bit dramatic.Clap LOL  I enjoy the different points of view.

I've seen that aquariums get used to how the owner maintains them and may show stress when that routine changes.
I have also seen that each tank's needs are different because there are different organisms and different densities of organisms living in them.

Reef aquariums can have problems for many reasons. Those reasons are as varied as the hobbyists that keep them. Some hobbyists use excessive control (too much messing) and others may fall victim to neglect. We each find our comfortable position on that continuum.

In my experience with the continuum, from a tank with occasional water changes and no added chemicals all the way over to tanks using a Ca Reactor, none are immune from the eventual need for some kind of Alk and/or Ca adjustment. Since coral are very slow to tell us when that adjustment is needed, a little testing gets us out of the "reefers doghouse".Smile


Edited by Mark Peterson - October 10 2010 at 11:36am]]> Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:31:58 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43815&PID=379360&title=always-dies#379360