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Subject: 5060
Posted: January 19 2005 at 10:29am

Thanks Jon and Shane for you opinions.  I think I'll give it a try.

Edited by KeoDog]]> Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:29:23 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50849&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50849 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50839&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50839 Author: Shane H
Subject: 5060
Posted: January 19 2005 at 9:33am

Kevin - I agree with Jon. In a system of that size, I think adding 1/2 gallon of kalkwasser would not be a problem. Especially if you added it to highly turbulent area.

I used a the milk jug method on my 55 gallon aquarium for several years. But, it does get tiresome filling a milk jug every night.
You will need to poke two holes in the jug - one near the bottom for the solution to escape and one near the top for air to enter. You can control the drip rate by the size of the air hole. This allows for a slightly larger hole that is less likely to clog from the solution.]]> Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:33:08 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50839&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50839 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50838&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50838 Author: jfinch
Subject: 5060
Posted: January 19 2005 at 9:09am

Kevin,  I think you're likely ok doing that.  On my 20 gallon tank I had a similar set-up where I was using a small powerhead in a bucket of kalkwasser set to an auto top-off in my sump.  I didn't have any problems, but I did pinch the discharge of the powerhead quite a bit so that it just barely pumped to lessen the pH spike in the sump.]]> Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:09:28 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50838&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50838 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50828&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50828 Author: Suzy
Subject: 5060
Posted: January 19 2005 at 8:11am

5% seems a bit high to me, also. I drip an IV bag (1 liter) into my
200 gallons and it bumps the pH.

I have mine in a 3 gallon jug that has a spout on the side. The
undissolved solids fall to the bottom, and the kalk saturated
water stays in the middle, where I can just use the spout to pull
it off. Then, I put it in a bag above the tank, adjust the roller
clamp and voila! the pH is a little bit higher!

I might just get a milk jug, though! That sounds too easy! But, I
don't have one! Would a DP bottle work? I might have one of
those laying around, rinsed, sitting on a shelve!]]> Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:11:18 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50828&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50828 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50827&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50827 Author: KeoDog
Subject: 5060
Posted: January 19 2005 at 8:04am

Jon,  what do you think of this idea?  My auto top off adds maybe a half a gallon (probbably less) at a time to 300g of water.  It is pumped from a 32g rubbermaid trash can of ro water.  Evaporation is about 4-5 gallons a day.  Could I add kalk mixed to saturation by this method without problems or would that be too fast? Any other concerns?

Edited by KeoDog]]> Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:04:20 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50827&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50827 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50819&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50819 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 5060
Posted: January 19 2005 at 5:29am

Sorry Rod. I didn't answer your question. I kinda thought you were joking. ]]> Wed, 19 Jan 2005 05:29:58 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50819&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50819 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50805&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50805 Author: jfinch
Subject: 5060
Posted: January 18 2005 at 11:07pm

5% seems a bit high to me.  First off, I don't think many tanks even evaporate that much water.  That's 5 gallons per 100 gallons, that's a lot.  But I know if my tank did evaporate that much it could probalby handle that much kalk as long as I spread it out over the whole day.  But my tank (actually my house) has a CO2 issue that others don't.]]> Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:07:15 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50805&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50805 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50793&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50793 Author: nellans
Subject: 5060
Posted: January 18 2005 at 10:18pm

hey mark, thanks for the reply...  i guess i never really thoughtof just a milk jug with a pinhole in it.  setting up a wholesystem/glug jug would be a pain because it really is quite tight undermy tank.  30gal main, 20 tall underneath taking up 75% of the roomand a stupid small door in the front that i actually had to shave justto get the 20 underneath!

mixing in a 5 gallon -> transfering to milk jugs -> just prickingit sounds like a great idea if i can make a little mount to let it dripdown into the sump without getting all over the place.  i worry abit because everyone says its so caustic, i don't want to be splashingit around too much underthere!

-dwn
]]> Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:18:14 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50793&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50793 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50784&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50784 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 5060
Posted: January 18 2005 at 8:59pm

I'd be a little surprised if you couldn't find a place to set a gallon milk jug with a pinhole punched in it to let the Kalk drip out or a valved/pinched airline tube syphoning it down to the tank from a jug on a shelf or on top of the hood.

The kalk could be full strength, meaning to put a lot of CaOH3 in a container. Stir it, let it sit for a day and syphon off the clear liquid into the milk jugs until the solid is almost gone or there are lots of black particles in it.

That 5% figure is a rough figure and would depend on the maturity of the aquarium. A gallon of Kalk delivered this way to any 40+ gal tank should be no problem at all, IMO. The remainder of topoff if needed, could be RO dumped straight in as usual.

There's my 2 cents ]]> Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:59:09 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50784&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50784 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5060&PID=50774&title=dosing-kalk-without-auto-drip#50774 Author: nellans
Subject: 5060
Posted: January 18 2005 at 7:53pm

after all this talk about kalkwasser reactors i would like to try outusing kalk instead of my normal b-ionic doseing and turbo calcium/reefbuilder for tweaking.  i don't have any pH drop problems, and nowthat i'm running a reverse daylight refugium (thanks to therecommendations of people here) my ph swing is .1 or less.

unfortunately i don't have the ability to set up an auto-top off due tospace limitations which is what most people are using to dose theirkalk slowly it seems.  right now i am adding topoff RO every twodays and have to add about 1-2 gallons.  twice a week i have toadd the B-ionic to keep things good as far as ca/alk are concerned.

i read a post by mark somewhere saying it was safe to add up to 5% ofthe total aquarium volume kalk solution over the course of a few hourswithout causing a major pH swing.  while i'm sure kalk willprovide enough ca/alk i'm worried about the ph spike it might cause ifadded too quickly.

what do people do for adding kalk if they don't have auto top off /drip systems?  i was thinking about making a 1/2 strength kalksolution (50/50 kalk r/o) and using that for top off which gets addedevery two days 1-2 gallons as i said.  you guys think that willspike the pH too rapidly over the course of 15 minutes of so to addit?  i don't know if i can bare to wait any longer pouring in topoff which i usually just dump in all at once.

any thoughts would be greatly appreciated
-dwn
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