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   <title><![CDATA[MP40 kill fish? :   MP40&amp;#039;s are vortechs of...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3969">Bryce</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60752<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;18&nbsp;2013 at 1:07pm<br /><br />MP40's are vortechs of death, take them out of your tank and sell them to me at a heavy discount if you want any of your fish to survive.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[MP40 kill fish? : I found my Kole Tang stuck to...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3424">08TRDOFFROAD</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60752<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January&nbsp;18&nbsp;2013 at 11:04am<br /><br />I found my Kole Tang stuck to my MP10 several months ago, I&nbsp;just figured he had died and the current dragged the corpse up to the MP10...<br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[MP40 kill fish? : Fish in nature have to deal with...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3009">Pete Moss</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60752<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;31&nbsp;2012 at 4:09pm<br /><br />Fish in nature have to deal with much harsher water flow than an MP40. It seems a fish would have to be a weak swimmer for whatever reason to get caught. In normal circumstances any fish should be able to withstand the flow. The fish would need to lack normal strength levels to become trapped by the flow of our aquarium equipment. Perhaps if it was feeling under the weather :P<br><br>&nbsp;But I've seen crazier things happen I suppose.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[MP40 kill fish? : I would think the fish would have...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4009">Molli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60752<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;10&nbsp;2012 at 8:45am<br /><br />I would think the fish would have to be a pretty weak swimmer.&nbsp; I'm sitting here watching my two young clowns within about an inch of my mp40 playing around and my foxface swims right up to the side of it to eat algae. <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Molli - December&nbsp;10&nbsp;2012 at 8:46am</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[MP40 kill fish? : I didn&amp;#039;t read above...But...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5">Adam Blundell</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60752<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;09&nbsp;2012 at 9:04pm<br /><br />I didn't read above...<div><br></div><div>But my answer is that it isn't possible. &nbsp;Even if you cut off the shroud and run them unprotected for years... which I have done</div><div>http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index.php/past-issues/2009/october-2009/article/48-ecotech-marine-vortech-cage-modifications</div><div><br></div><div>Adam</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[MP40 kill fish? : my mp 10 sucked in and killed...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2668">laynframe</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60752<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;09&nbsp;2012 at 8:55pm<br /><br />my mp 10 sucked in and killed a gobie]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[MP40 kill fish? : I have seen MP40&amp;#039;s suck in...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=628">Corey Price</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60752<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;09&nbsp;2012 at 8:39pm<br /><br />I have seen MP40's suck in shrimp and I don't doubt that it could suck fish in right next to the powerhead, but not usually.  Dead or dying fish are usually near the rocks or up against an intake for a pump or powerhead...<br /><br />I have a hard time believing the powerhead was the cause of death for a tang.  Most likely the fish was dying and was very weak or already dead.  Tangs are very good swimmers. <br /><br />Corey]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[MP40 kill fish? : Interesting info everyone. Thanks....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3484">spike</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60752<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;09&nbsp;2012 at 7:59pm<br /><br />Interesting info everyone. Thanks. I have had two other stories of people witnessing their fish being sucked to them while feeding from R2R in addition to the couple here. I never gave it a lot of consideration but it sounds like it can definitely happen. Are there any thoughts to preventing it? I guess I just have bad luck to lose to tangs to it.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 19:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[MP40 kill fish? : I can almost guarantee it can...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3024">wickedsnowman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60752<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;09&nbsp;2012 at 5:29pm<br /><br />I can almost guarantee it can happen. I had the same thing happen with a koralia 1400 and that is less power than a mp 40. Luckily I caught it out of the corner of my eye. I know my sailfin wasn't sick because as soon as I unplugged it he swam away and has since been fat and happy. I am sure if I hadn't been home he would have been toast.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[MP40 kill fish? : Yes, it can happen. I watched...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2264">DLindquist</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 60752<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;09&nbsp;2012 at 5:06pm<br /><br />Yes, it can happen. I watched as our Blond Naso was nibbling algae around the base of one of our MP60's and just as the MP60 ramped up to near full capacity, it sucked him in flat against the wet side. In horror, I pulled the plug on the MP60 and he instantly swam away. I don't use the foam covers as a lot of food gets trapped within those covers but I'm sure this would help something like this from happening. ]]>
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