WMAS Discussion Forum : Another Ozone Question http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 14 Jul 2026 10:14:22 +0000 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:31:21 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=67201 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Another Ozone Question : Thank you for your replies! The...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540885&title=another-ozone-question#540885 Author: P.Kapp
Subject: 67201
Posted: October 23 2013 at 5:31pm

Thank you for your replies! The ORP probe is currently running so I can get an idea where the tank is now without the ozone. I thought about using UV instead, but dont have enough space for one that I would feel is adequate for this tank. Plus, I already have the ozone generator, and Id rather save the money I would have used for UV for more coral and fish Big smile. Right now I am going back and forth between garlic oil and selcon with the food Im feeding. I try to feed nori about 3 times a week, then I do a combination of brine, mysis, and emerald entree almost daily, and I have a feeder that delivers a small amount of pellets 3 times a day. 

Any other advice or experience on using ozone would still be appreciated! 
]]> Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:31:21 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540885&title=another-ozone-question#540885 <![CDATA[Another Ozone Question : I agree. In the amounts it is...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540778&title=another-ozone-question#540778 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 67201
Posted: October 23 2013 at 8:19am

I agree. In the amounts it is used in marine aquariums, it's perfectly safe in the home.
My opinion about Randy Holmes-Farley's statement is that he was being slightly old school and because he may have never used it, he didn't see the need.

That's not to say that Ozone is the ultimate answer. I've seen many tanks with and many tanks without. I've seen some tanks with ORP over 400 that did not use O3 and were very beautiful and healthy environments. I've seen the Powder type Tangs do well in many different tanks. As I often say, preparation is the key to successfully introducing new fish. Significant to that preparation is food. To have growing in the tank, plenty of the food that fish likes, goes a long way toward it's health and happiness.

I believe it would be unfair to an aquarium to say that running O3 will make it healthier. O3 is like fire. It oxidizes/burns things up. In the natural course of nature these things do oxidize but the use of O3 accelerates that burning and changes the aquarium from what it was or would be without O3. Moderation is good.

O3 can help control the Ich Parasite, but there are a number of other alternatives for effectively controlling Ich. Nikki discussed the quarantine method at length at the last meeting, but many of us find that to be more work than we want to do. UV Sterilization is a good alternative and the use of Garlic Oil has been very effective for me. Interestingly, Nikki also uses Garlic. Approve

Again, I would set up the ORP meter now to get a baseline understanding of the tank and its base ORP before initiating the introduction of Ozone to raise ORP.

For what it's worth these are some of my thoughts.
Aloha,
Mark Hug
]]> Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:19:19 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540778&title=another-ozone-question#540778 <![CDATA[Another Ozone Question : I am pretty sure you are being...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540773&title=another-ozone-question#540773 Author: ReefKeeper78
Subject: 67201
Posted: October 23 2013 at 3:24am

I am pretty sure you are being paranoid, O3 breaks down very quickly at atmosphere and because it quickly decays into diatomic oxygen it can't even be transported, The 2-3 % that aquarium systems use of it is really, really low.  I have used it a lot at the place I worked in the 15% range and that is very toxic.  We had to send it though a O3 destructor.  Most people I know in the hobby use a Spa type system and combined with the apex it dosn't even run all the time just when ORP lvl's are high.  I would feel completely safe running it with no side effects.  Another point is that you are sending it though the water which is going to attack and break down stuff in the tank at a point where there are a lot of organics for it to "go after." the likely hood anything is escaping into your house is slim to none due to how reactive it really is. ]]> Wed, 23 Oct 2013 03:24:42 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540773&title=another-ozone-question#540773 <![CDATA[Another Ozone Question : Thanks for the replies. I currently...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540769&title=another-ozone-question#540769 Author: P.Kapp
Subject: 67201
Posted: October 22 2013 at 11:53pm

Thanks for the replies. I currently have an Achilles tang in qt and it is one reason I would like to run ozone, others are for improved water clarity and overall health of my fish as a whole.

'Upload' is bob, right? I'm probably a bit paranoid, but I mostly worry about the health of my little girl. Will that carbon bag absorb all the leftover ozone? Or does some escape through the skimmer outlet in the micro bubbles? Or would that be such a small amount that it wouldn't be an issue? Again, thanks for everyone's help!]]> Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:53:54 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540769&title=another-ozone-question#540769 <![CDATA[Another Ozone Question : Ozone Is great for many many reasons,...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540693&title=another-ozone-question#540693 Author: Aquarium Creations
Subject: 67201
Posted: October 22 2013 at 11:12am

Ozone Is great for many many reasons, If you have a apex as well as a ozone unit i would use it. ]]> Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:12:45 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540693&title=another-ozone-question#540693 <![CDATA[Another Ozone Question : If you run your ozone through...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540648&title=another-ozone-question#540648 Author: Upload
Subject: 67201
Posted: October 22 2013 at 8:50am

If you run your ozone through the skimmer, just place a mesh bag of carbon on top of the skimmers collection cup to adsorb any remaining ozone that makes it out of the air holes in the cup.

Replace the carbon monthly and you'll be fine. That's what I did when I ran ozone.
 
FLuval, I believe makes carbon pouches that worked great for me; they were the exact size to cover the skimmer cup holes without hanging over it.
 
]]> Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:50:40 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540648&title=another-ozone-question#540648 <![CDATA[Another Ozone Question : Why do you want to use Ozone...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540642&title=another-ozone-question#540642 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 67201
Posted: October 22 2013 at 7:20am

Why do you want to use Ozone Question Are there problems with the tank Question
Here is a quote from Randy Holmes-Farley, one of the hobby's most famous chemist-aquarists, from his Reefkeeping article about ORP:

"I don't use ozone, or generally recommend it for a variety of reasons,"

What are the Alk and Ca levels of this tank Question Is there good gas exchange via surface water turbulance Question These are beginning questions I would want to answer to ensure the basics were good, before I considered Ozone.
Are the fish having a problem with the Ich Parasite Question If so, let's talk about it.

If I had an ORP meter/controller, out of curiosity before considering Ozone, I would turn on the meter and stick the probe in the water to discover the tanks present ORP. It takes a week or more for an ORP measuring unit to settle in to an accurate reading, but even then it may not be accurate (for several reasons described in Randy's article). If the ORP reading turns out to be around 300 or higher, I would be happy and leave well enough alone.

Mahalo,
Mark Hug


Edited by Mark Peterson - October 22 2013 at 7:29am]]> Tue, 22 Oct 2013 07:20:23 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540642&title=another-ozone-question#540642 <![CDATA[Another Ozone Question : So I have a Red Sea ozone generator...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540634&title=another-ozone-question#540634 Author: P.Kapp
Subject: 67201
Posted: October 21 2013 at 10:46pm

So I have a Red Sea ozone generator that ive been wanting to use, but with a new baby and two dogs I want to make sure I do it right. I have an apex with a orp probe, check valves for both sides of the air tubing going in and out of the generator, an air dryer, and my protein skimmer has an inlet for ozone. I've been reading that I need to run the ozone through a carbon source for it to be safe in my house. I just don't know the best way to do it without a specially built reactor... I have a little carbon reactor with a separate jbj pump that I thought about hooking up a venturi and running the ozone through it instead of the skimmer. But I don't know if that will give it enough contact time. Any help or experience would be great! Thank you! ]]> Mon, 21 Oct 2013 22:46:56 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67201&PID=540634&title=another-ozone-question#540634