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   <title><![CDATA[What about that Utah Rock? : There are various ways that sand...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 74930<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March&nbsp;27&nbsp;2015 at 2:42pm<br /><br />There are various ways that sand is formed. Yes, Parrotfish eating stony coral and excreting the pulverized skeleton is one way. Decomposition of Halimeda and other calcarous algae is another.&nbsp;<div>Oolitic sand forms like hail, with successive layers of Calcium Carbonate forming around a seed particle.</div><div><br></div><div><img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0" alt="Hug" title="Hug" /><br></div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What about that Utah Rock? :   Pete Moss wrote:Maybe if we...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2859">Deluxe247</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 74930<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March&nbsp;23&nbsp;2015 at 8:24pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Pete Moss" alt="Originally posted by Pete Moss" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Pete Moss wrote:</strong><br /><br />Maybe if we eat Utah rock we'll poop out clean Utah rock <img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" /><br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Isn't that basically how a lot of reef and beach sand is formed, by fish chomping on stony corals and then "depositing" fine, clean sand?]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What about that Utah Rock? : Tanks to all for the kind words.I...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 74930<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March&nbsp;18&nbsp;2015 at 5:39pm<br /><br />Tanks to all for the kind words.&nbsp;<div>I can share the value, because I run it as a "dirt farm" using baling wire and duct tape to hold things together.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></div><div>Watch out though, I'm an old grandpa with an attitude.</div><div><br></div><div>Aloha,</div><div>MarksReef Coral Farm</div><div>808-345-1049</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2015 17:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[What about that Utah Rock? : I just started my first reef tank...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5561">TJAy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 74930<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March&nbsp;18&nbsp;2015 at 12:57am<br /><br /><div>I just started my first reef tank thanks to mark and Utah rock/sand.&nbsp;<span style="line-height: 1.4;">The idea of paying hundreds of dollars for rocks/sand is still really weird to me.... and was something that&nbsp;</span>stopped<span style="line-height: 1.4;">&nbsp;me from starting up a tank.&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.4;"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.4;">My&nbsp;</span>experience<span style="line-height: 1.4;">&nbsp;with mark&nbsp;</span>hasn't<span style="line-height: 1.4;">&nbsp;lead me to believe he is even in this to make money at all. Considering i left with more things than i remember and I think he charged me for 1/10 of it.</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.4;"><br></span></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2015 00:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[What about that Utah Rock? : It sounds like any rock can be...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5491">Marcoss</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 74930<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> February&nbsp;24&nbsp;2015 at 9:35am<br /><br />It sounds like any rock can be used as long as the person using it can clean it properly. For me, I do not know how to cure rock, etc. so I took the easier route, and bought it already done. Granted, this can come with issues, but the issues are greatly reduced if I am not the one in charge of doing it.<div><br></div><div>It seems like the pros/people who know how to treat rock succeed with it and the others who buy it to save money and are not as diligent about taking care of it are probably not as likely to succeed.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thats what I took away. Based on how some people are doing well I think Utah rock can work, its just a matter of doing it correctly.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Marcos</div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1638">BobC63</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 74930<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> February&nbsp;24&nbsp;2015 at 9:22am<br /><br />Yes, and to be very honest...<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I was one who advised against using it. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[What about that Utah Rock? :   BobC63 wrote:It is interesting,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1509">superman1981</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 74930<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> February&nbsp;24&nbsp;2015 at 9:18am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by BobC63" alt="Originally posted by BobC63" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>BobC63 wrote:</strong><br /><br />It is interesting, the upcoming TOTM (Paul's 150) is all Lace Rock... And it not only looks nice, the livestock - including SPS - appear to be doing just fine...</td></tr></table> <br /><br />That's awesome!  I'm excited to see pictures of the lace rock tank, especially after there was a thread here last week telling someone not to use lace rock.  ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What about that Utah Rock? : It is interesting, the upcoming...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1638">BobC63</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 74930<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> February&nbsp;24&nbsp;2015 at 7:39am<br /><br />It is interesting, the upcoming TOTM (Paul's 150) is all Lace Rock... And it not only looks nice, the livestock - including SPS - appear to be doing just fine...]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 07:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3009">Pete Moss</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 74930<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> February&nbsp;24&nbsp;2015 at 7:34am<br /><br />Maybe if we eat Utah rock we'll poop out clean Utah rock&nbsp;<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" /><br><br>Bottom line, what I got out of this debate is:<br><br>Choose the rock you think looks the best, then clean it, then use it. Ultimately what matters is that you are happy with how your reef looks.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley41.gif" border="0" alt="Beer" title="Beer" /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Pete Moss - February&nbsp;24&nbsp;2015 at 7:36am</span>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 07:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[What about that Utah Rock? : Wait, you&amp;#039;re digging up good...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 74930<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> February&nbsp;24&nbsp;2015 at 5:03am<br /><br />Wait, you're digging up good Utah Rock in your yard? Maybe a new collection site?&nbsp;<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><div><br></div><div>Maybe your house is in the zone; the elevation where Utah Rock naturally occurs or maybe a previous resident used it for landscaping. <img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />&nbsp;&nbsp;I've actually seen a lot of yards with Utah Rock used for the landscaping. It's just a curious kind of rock, but it's not for everyone.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Personally, I would rather use nice pieces of ocean LR, taken either from a mature reef tank or just a few days ago from the ocean, uncured. For existing tanks, I like to add the occasional piece of uncured LR for the diversity of good stuff it brings into the system like algae, bacteria, bugs, coral, sponge, tunicates, worms and more. We know very well how to deal with and remove the unwanted hitchhikers like pest anemones and rock crabs.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.4;">We see wet LR available almost continually from hobbyist tanks being closed down and sold. Some of it is still prime stuff or can be re-grown into prime stuff.&nbsp;</span><img src="http://utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" />&nbsp;Some pieces of dry rock are too awesome to pass up. Thanks to ReefdUp introducing to us a cleaning technique, we don't have to wait long to see this rock become alive and beautiful again.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Aloha,</div><div>Mark &nbsp;<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0" alt="Hug" title="Hug" /></div><div><br></div><div>P.S.</div><div>An old nurse (my mother) pointed out to me the other day that Muriatic Acid is Hydrochloric Acid, the same acid as in my stomach!&nbsp;<span style="line-height: 1.4;">That <img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif" border="0" alt="Cool" title="Cool" />&nbsp;fact hadn't hit me before.&nbsp;</span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">When used on dry LR it digests all the organic matter, leaving relatively clean Calcium Carbonate similar to clean Utah Rock, Marco Rock, Reef Savers Rock, etc. Awesome!</span></div>]]>
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