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    Posted: May 12 2006 at 11:54am
    Just wondering if I had some SPS's bleach if they would ever get their color back. I've had a series of lighting problems and my huge pink birds nest colony didn't make it. Should I chuck it? It still has a live acro crab in it so I feel bad just throwing it away but I'm not sure how to get the crab out or if would do any good in my tank without the bird's nest.

If there's a chance of the color coming back, would anyone like to put it in their tank to see how it does? If the color comes back maybe I can just get a piece of it back in the future when I set things right.
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There is a difference between bleached and dead.  If the coral tissue is still alive (bleached), don't take it out.  Bleached corals can recover with time and good conditions.  If it is completely dead, it still is a cool looking skeleton, in or out of the tank.  If you want it for decoration outside the tank and you're sure it's completely dead, soak the skeleton in a tub/bowl/pot or water with bleach to clean any dead tissue off it.  After it's clean and out of the water, the chlorine smell will go away in a few days.
 
Try and save the crab if possible.  It should be able to transfer to another colony. 


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How do I tell between bleached tissue and dead skeleton?

If it's just bleached, do I have any takers on trying to bring it back to life for me?
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Dead areas of the skeleton will start to grow algae.  They won't be bright white for very long.  Live, bleached areas shouldn't grow algae.  You may be able to see polyp extension on live areas at night.  Feeding rotifers should help a bleached coral recover.
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My pink birdnest bleached a while ago.  It has since come back amazingly well.  It is still not as nice as it used to be, but it is still alive and is now more pink.  When mine was bleached, it still had its polyps out all the time but it was just white. 

Maybe I can attribute the return of coloration to my new feeding and water change regimen (easy on my 20 gal) where I now feed cyclopeeze and/or rotifers with brine shrimp for the fish and phyto for those that like phyto (clams, dusters, leathers etc..)
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Jared, I would hold onto it for you if you would like.  My tanks are doing well and maybe it will come back.
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great. Where do you live? I'll arrange a time to bring it to you.
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I have a Torch Coral that rtparty brought to me a few days ago because it was bleaching. At first I thought it might color back up but that was just wishful thinking. It continued to bleach and is now almost totally white, the same color as the skeleton underneath. The heads that looked bad continued to die but the rest are still distressed from the previous move to his tank and subsequent move to mine.
 
Sometimes, moving an already stressed coral does more harm than good. If it is simply bleached and all other coral are doing well in the tank, which in your case they should be, judging from my visit, the best thing in your situation, IMHO, would be to move it to a lower light area. In lower light the symbiotic Zooxanthellae Algae are required to multiply to adequately meet the needs of the host coral.
 
I'm assuming that the crazy lighting conditions you had are now subsiding, are they not? Rtparty brought you some glass. Has it made a difference?
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actually Mark. What you saw was only the beginning of my problems. Right after I got the glass from Rtparty, one of my ballasts died. A replacement was on backorder so I've been about 2 weeks without on of xmy lights. So now, my entire pink birds nest is white, perhaps even dead, and all my montipora plates are bleaching. The good news is that I'm expecting the ballast in on Monday. Hopefully, from then I can turn things around.
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Remember what FaviaSteve said above. If it is really dead, the white skeleton will turn dark as algae begins to grow on it. If it stays white it's not dead and will recover. Losing a light should not cause a coral to bleach, though a combination of factors can certainly cause stress, leading to further deterioration and even death. One of the best ways I've found to minimize stress is to not mess with things. Sometimes the things we do to try to "fix" things, simply causes more stress.
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at this point, I think it's dead. It looks like it's covered with dark brown like diatoms.
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