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Topic: CUC...please help Posted: March 02 2007 at 1:30pm |
For my first CUC I had 2 scarlet reef hermits, 1 cerith snail, and 2 mexican turbos. At the start they were doing a fantastic job..but recently one of my turbos died, and one of my hermits is missing...the other one is just chilling not doing much. I have alot of Red and Green hair algae (dont know if color matters) and alot fo Bubble algae forming....What should I get for a CUC? I was thinking getting 1 or 2 more Mexican Turbos b/c they clean like crazy. I havnt seen much from the cerith, but some stuff is settling on my sand..so im thinking maybe a Nassurias as well. For the bubble Algea I guess Im going to have to get an emerald crab and bring him back later when his job is complete (since its a 3gal he will get to aggressive IMO once I add some gobies and sexy shrimp) So I guess here is the CUC I will purchase this weekend CUC: 2 Cerith Snails 1 Nassurias Snail 1 Emerald Crab (or sally lightfoot if they clean bubble algae to) 1-2 Hermits (maybe..what do you think?) The tank is a 3gal picotope w/ 2-18w PC's. My lighting cycle is never set b/c I dont have timers yet. My params: Unknown b.c Im about to leave for class...Ill get them later 2day and do a WC either 2day or 2morro (need to get more distilled water to). I would love to get Comments/Suggestions on this CUC..Thanks alot..also below or some pics of the algae (sry the camera is bad)    I can try to get a Better FTS if needed to help w/ what types of algae it is, and what is the best option for a CUC thank you for reading this long post on a simple CUC...your help is appreciated also..how do u make the pics thumbnails? so they dont take up so much room? thanks once again sorry for the poor quality pictures
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 2:21pm |
The red stuff is cyano bacteria not algea and I don't think there is a critter you can buy that will eat all that stuff up.
The green stuff is looks to be probably hair algea. Some critters will eat it but not many.
So, things to consider --
1. Are you doing water changes and if so how often?
2. What type of lights are you running and how old are the bulbs?
3. How much do you feed your tank.
4. What are your chemical levels (nitrate,nitrite,ammonia,ph,alk)
Unfortunately (as has been my experience) these algea grow with excess nutrients and that may be something that is hard to eliminate.
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 4:13pm |
So its def Cyano b/c ppl on Nano-reef thought the same thing.
-I do around 1/2 gal WC's a week...I need to get some more water so I can do one this weekend (I could up the WC amount)
-Im running a Current USA 36w Satellite USA 24hr System...its only a few weeks old
- I dont feed that much because of the algea and what the tank supplies so far (I offer some frozen brine shrimp once and a while to treat my camel shrimp)
- I havnt checked in a few days b/c of classes and stuff...Last time I chcked it was: Ph: 8.0-8.4 nitrite: 0 ammonia: .25-.5 (doesnt seem to want to drop at all) I dont have a test for alk and I need to get one for nitrate)
-I think Ill pick up some Cheato to have in the corner of the tank this weekend so it can help eat up some un wanted nutrients.
So w/ the Cyano..can I pull it to try to trim it down as I wait this out?
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 4:57pm |
1st suggestion, use less abbreviations/Acronyms! It really hard to read all those abbreviations. It took me forever to figure out CUC meant Clean Up Crew. Some of them I gave up on.
How long has your tank been up and running? Im thinking your ammonia should read 0 before you put anything living in the tank.
Where do you get water for your water changes?
What brand of salt are you using?
What is your salinity levels?
Is this your first salt water tank?
Anybody out there doing a nano/pico tank that could chime in and tell us how its done?
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 7:14pm |
When I first put the shrimp in my tank I had cured LR from an established tank of 4 yrs...So after 3 weeks of that in there I added the shrimp. My old roommate then came back wasted one night and chucked that rock out the window, So i got more LR and LS. I will be doing another water change and check the params tomorrow.
-The tank has been running for about 2 months, w/ setbacks in between -I get Distilled water from Stop and Shop (its steam distilled) and I just heard that that my be the problem because Poland Spring my be using copper pipes. -Im using Instant Ocean Salt, always have. -The Salinity(sg) is 1.025 and I do daily Top offs (until I get my fuge built and add an ATO) -I had a 10gal turned into a 55g fish only tank for several months, only had a few deaths because I couldnt treat the disease in time (and at the time did'nt recognize signs of problems or distress....I have since learned)
Next time I go to the LFS I will be bringing some water in so they can do a water test as well. Im beginging to think that the Distilled water is adding unwanted things into the water creating the Cyano...My GPH has slowed b/c the strainers on my filters have been getting clogged w/ junk So ill be cleaning those off when I do the water change.
Any other Ideas are greatly appreciated, thanks so much
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 7:36pm |
Where do you live? I've never heard of Stop and Shop? Do you have an Albertsons around? They sell RO water by the gallon. I think once you get your own container it's around .45.
The cyano bacteria can sometimes be fixed by 3 things: flow, food and lighting. If you turn your lights off for a couple of days, increase flow, and reduce feeding, it will usually go away. It can be sucked off the rock when you do a water change, but it will come right back if you don't change whatever caused it in the first place.
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 7:55pm |
Im a member on nano-reef as well, someone suggested to rip off as much as you can, and to try some chemi-clean so I think im going to try that. Stop and Shop is the grocery store where Im at..I live in Connecticut and go to school in boston. I stumbled upon this nice little forum when searching for a DIY HOB Fuge. I looked around the place a little bit and decided to join :)
I just upgraded from 9w to 36w a week ago or so...Could that have to do with it? Not acclimating the tank to the new lighting?
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Posted: March 03 2007 at 6:32am |
Chemi-clean will only delay the problems, it will help short term, but with that small of a tank, IHMO your risks are higher, I would recommend monitoring your temps. and doing regular water changes, you can buy a lot of water changes for that size of a tank for what the chemi-clean will cost.
upgrading the lighting also increased your temperatures, you want to stay in the 78-82 range, colder by a few degrees is less damaging, above 85 and things will start to die.
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Posted: March 03 2007 at 8:13am |
Actually the lighting didnt do anything to my temp, I was really suprised. i use to have the temp set at 83 but when the window was cracked at night it would drop to 78-79 so I thought that was to much temp change every night. So I lowered it to 79deg and even w/ the light on it never hits eighty. Its always between 78-79.
So im guessing the problem source might be the steam distilled water, but the problem just started so its confusing me that it didnt happen earlier.
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Posted: March 03 2007 at 9:22am |
I'm sure the upgrade of your light has something to do with it also. Adding 4 times as much light will have an affect, short term, I would think. I would keep doing your w/c's and maybe shorten your light period for awhile and see if that helps you. Oh, and maybe throw your room mate out the window .
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Posted: March 03 2007 at 11:34am |
I agree with the comments here. I have heard many times that Chemi Clean isn't a good solution. The problem is that it kills the good stuff as well as the bad stuff, and as others have said, it is only a very temporary solution. I would also cut down the light period and increase your water flow if possible. Good luck!
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Posted: March 03 2007 at 2:01pm |
Ill shorten my lighting period and slowly increase it. I just got 6 more gal's of water today so Ill make up 3gal salt and 3 for top off.
Ill be increasing my WC frequency for right now. Ill also be giving my filter intakes a good cleaning, they are covered w/ gunk and my GPH has been decreasing a fair amount. Hopefully this will work pretty well....Only patience will tell though
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Posted: March 04 2007 at 2:23am |
I agree with tileman on the light thing (and maybe the roomate
thing.  ) The smaller the tank, the more dramatic the response is going to be to any changes you make. That's why it's so much easier to take care of a larger tank.
BTW: Welcome to the group.
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Posted: March 04 2007 at 1:04pm |
Thanks Amie :)
Im well aware of the larger the tank the easier b/c it would take longer for drastic changes to happen. But the school limits us to a 10gal and when I saw this 3gal online I knew it would be sweet for a dorm...So i got it :)
Now its time to battle the algea and try to get rid of it...as for the roommate I have switched rooms
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Posted: March 04 2007 at 6:14pm |
So i pulled off all the red water in my MASSIVE water change today. I still have stuff im going to try to either blow off the rocks or suck off the rocks. But im left w/ alot of hair algea.
What causes this? I have some scarlet hermits who will hopefully help chow it down..but does anyone have any other suggestions?
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Posted: March 05 2007 at 7:57pm |
I would also get the chetao you were planning on getting to stick in back of tank.. It should help long term to prevent it from coming back after you pull it up.
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Posted: March 05 2007 at 10:06pm |
I was going to hold out until I built the fuge...But I think Ill get it before and just try to stick it in a corner in back to help keep nitrates down
edit: ive also gotta take my rock out and trim down the hair algae so my snails and hermits go after it
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