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    Posted: February 05 2004 at 2:06pm

I have a Monapora frag that for a couple of weeks was doing great but recently has taken a turn for the worse.  One thing I have noticed is that when I turn donw the main lights (250w MH) it seems to open up.  With the main lights on the tank sits at a pretty steady 77 degrees.  After a night of no lights it is at 72-73 degrees and that is when the monapora looks the best. (Ph 8.4, Ammonia 0, Nitrites 0, Nitrates 0, Calcium 380-420)

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I dont think that 77 deg. is at all execsive. How close to the light is the frag?
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My tank usually is around 80 deg most of the time, and mine have been doing fine.

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I don't know much about Montipora, but don't some corals shock for a while if their lighting changes drastically?  Maybe whereever you got it from it didn't have as much light as you have in your tank. ???
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78°F

I'd be interested to know if anyone here keeps their tank (reef tank, not shark tank) in the low 70s?

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   Ours hangs out around 74-75 'cause it's in the unheated
basement. Thus far, we have excellant growth rates, and everybody
looks happy as the clam! We do have a 3 100 watt heaters in the
sump, but with the water flow through 3 tanks, and a large sump, I
think we have a lot of surface area to blow off heat. And, no metal
halides...... I was gonna raise the temp at first, Kinda spaced it off.
Now, I think I'll just leave it.....
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Is it Montipora Digitita? What does it look like now. I had all of my montipora digitita retract in December and I blamed it on my blenny. Now I am not sure and I don't know what is wrong either. They still are somewhat retracted and come more out during the night than the day. If this sounds the same I would be curious to learn more about your tank and see if we have anything in common that might be causing it. The weird thing is although they don't look very healty they are still growing.
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80-82...  82 on a hot day.  Sense winter it's been a steady 80deg.  All seems well.  Is it changing color? 
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It is a monapora Digitita and it does seem to come out during the night.  I haven't seen many of our fish around it so I don't think they are disturbing it.  Both frags (both are doing the same thing) are near the top of the tank with good water movement.  I am going to try a little direct feeding to see if that will encourage them to open up more.  They had been in the tank a little over a week and looked good until the other day. The tank is lit with 4-250w MH (spread over 8 feet of tank surface) All the other corals seem to be doing good.  Hopefully a little extra food will help.
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With mine feeding didn't seem to make a difference. If you find a solution I would be very interested to hear about it. Right now I am trying to make sure that my lower calcium and alk isn't the problem. Also I am going to take a sample of my water to an LFS to test it for phosphates and see if that is the issue.
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Did you start the frag at the bottom and work it up to the top?  I've found with my lights (2-400w in a 110g) and frags (sps in general) they adjust better if I put them on the sand bed for the first week and then slowly move them up the rock work.  This allows them to adjust to your lighting.  Are they bleaching at all?  It may be they just need some time to adjust.

I've never tried feeding.  Let us know if it seems to help. 

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we have a 36" tall tank and the montipora is about 2/3 of the way up (Basically at the top of our live rock).  That is where it was placed when we got it and it seemed fine for about 2 weeks before this all started.  While it is going white it doesn't seem to be bleaching out.  The polyps just seem to be retracting into the coral.  When they come out they are a lighter color than when we first got it and not as dense. 

We put some phytoplankton in the tank after turning down the lights tonight.  We'll keep you updated if anything happens. 

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Here are 3 pics of the Weimers up-and-coming 300 gal. tank with the Montipora on the left in 2 of the pics.


The Lawnmower Blenny is doing an absolutely fantastic job on the Bryopsis.

Those turbo snails are about 1.5" and have done a number on the hair algae and bryopsis.

This is the sump which has 3 types of Caulerpa and 4 other types of macroalgae.   


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my monti grows out of control.

I have a 125 with 3 160w act vho @ 2 250 halides 10k

my ph is 8.34 day and 8.25 night

my temp is 77.6 to 78.0

calcium is around 375

good luck!

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Mark, are you sure that the algae the Weimer's have is Bryopsis?  I don't think it is.  The Bryopsis that I have seen is more feathery.

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Marcus,

If I'm learning things correctly, the Bryopsis is the soft feathery stuff in the main tank (top pictures).  Am I getting this yet?  Confused  Hopefully, we don't have any bryopsis in the refugium (yet).

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I thought that Bryopsis was poisonous to most things...

http://www.globaldialog.com/~jrice/algae_page/bryopsis.htm

 

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Sarnack, you are probably correct and I misidentified the algae in Weimers tank.

There is a lot of it and the Lawnmower Blenny just kept eating it for the hour or so that I was there. It's belly was huge! I suspect that we don't see this algae much because it must taste pretty good and fish eat it before it thrives like it has in Weimers and Crazy Tarzan's Tangless tanks!

Crazy Tarzan had a problem with this same algae growing on his substrate. Nate, are you still having trouble with it?

It's not hair, it's soft tufts. Does anyone know what it is?


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It certaintly looked like hair algae to me when I was at their house.
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Here's the hair algae.


I hope that the Weimers don't mind us using their tank for visual aids.   
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