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Posted: February 01 2008 at 11:27am |
How many fish do you have per gallon of water?
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 11:38am |
One fish per 20 gallons.
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 11:58am |
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Oh noes! I got 8 fishies in my 90gal. . . no skimmer. . . I'm hosed!
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 12:02pm |
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I currently have 8 in my 125, all of them are small (clowns, chromis) except for my 2 tangs. I plan on getting up somewhere around 20, so 1 fish per 6 gal, although only maybe 4 of those fish will be over 3 or 4 inches...
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 12:03pm |
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For the record, in my 29 I had 2 clowns, a small tang, purple firefish, clown goby and a diamond goby for probably 6 months...
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 12:52pm |
I think it comes down to size of the fish, type of fish, and filtration. If the fish are small and stay small there can be more of them. If they are low bio load fish there can be more of them. If you have a lot of filtration to keep up with a higher bio load you can have more fish.
Look at Brad's tank (tileman) He has a LOT of fish per gallon, but he also has a major filtration system that most of us envy.
IMO just do what works. Remember that fish grow and calculate number of fish based on their full size (or 3/4 size as they may not get that big) rather than the size they are when you buy them. Fish can grow surprisingly fast. If you are willing to do what is needed to care for them, all should be fine. This care ranges from water changes to removing aggressive or peaceful fish (avoid conflict) to selling fish or upgrading the tank.
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 12:55pm |
Yeah I was just seeing what everyone had...kinda curious!
I have a little over 6 gallons per fish  But all are small and will stay small except for my 2 tangs!
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 1:02pm |
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I have about 10 gallons per fish and my fish are small.
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 1:06pm |
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Do inverts like crabs n shrimp count??? Right now only a peppermint and a perc in my 29gal. Another couple questions, I want probably two more fish. Either a mate for my perc, or goby or jawfish but also have a bunch of softies. Too much without a skimmer?? I have 35lbs of LR and want to add another 3-5lbs. I have a 1.5-2 inch sandbed, and 40 snails and hermits.
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 1:25pm |
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i have a small clown in a 1.5 nano.... it has been in there for around 1-2 months and doing great. i also have a yellow tang, scopus tang, sialfin tang, maroon clown, 5 chromis, 1 sixline wrasse, 2 bangia's, and 2 small damsels in my 55. so thats around 4 gallons per fish. as well as 1 eel and my baby shark in a 40gal. so there is 1 per 20 gals.
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 1:29pm |
I have 17 fish in my 120
8 Chromis, 2 blue tangs, 1 large yellow tang, 1 unknown tang, 1 large naso tang, 1 bi-color blenny, 1 lawnmower blenny, 1 true perc & 1 false perc.
if you count the total system volume I have 1 fish per 10.25 gallons
Edited by shakin06 - February 01 2008 at 1:42pm
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 1:58pm |
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Do inverts like crabs n shrimp count??? Right now only a peppermint and a perc in my 29gal. Another couple questions, I want probably two more fish. Either a mate for my perc, or goby or jawfish but also have a bunch of softies. Too much without a skimmer?? I have 35lbs of LR and want to add another 3-5lbs. I have a 1.5-2 inch sandbed, and 40 snails and hermits. |
You should be fine with 2 or 3 more fish. If you see my post above, my 29 was way over stocked, and I only had an HOB filter on it, but it worked great!
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 2:11pm |
In my 120 I have 1 fish per 60 gallons.
In my 55 I have 1 fish per 11 gallons.
In my 30 I have 1 fish per 10 gallons.
In my 5 gallon refugium (on my 55 gallon), I have 1 fish per 5 gallons.
Edited by Jake Pehrson - February 01 2008 at 2:12pm
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 3:23pm |
Jake, how can you have so few fish? What kind are they?
Soundsurfer, I think either a mate for my perc, or goby or jawfish would be fine. If you get a goby make sure you have enough pods or get one that will eat supplement food. If you get a jawfish make sure you are willing to let it dig. They are serious sand movers and will probably bury anything within 5" of where they build their home. FYI don't get an engineer goby, they get huge and dig a lot. I have one that is over a foot long  It has taken over the tank and buried almost everything in the bottom 4" of the tank with sand.
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 5:12pm |
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I always thought it should be based on 3 things:
1. inches of fish per gallon. Will they all fit?
2. How much habitat do they range in. Some larger fish don't move around much.
3. What kind of habitat do they live in? Mandarins need lots of sand, Jaw fish, etc.
I have 7 fish in my 50 gallon, three are small but they roam all over, one is medium and roams all over, one will be large and roam all over, two are large but never move much.
2x 6line wrasse
1x chromis
1x drawf angel
1x Sailfin tang (will become to large for the tank but by then I will have a larger one.)
2x Golden Maroon anenome fish
But, I am maxed out to give them any room and I have lots of holes and caves so they can have their own "space".
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 5:30pm |
Well here's my list...it seems like alot of fish but it stills seems empty in the tank:
7 chromis
2 clowns
2 PJ cardnials
1 yellow tang (maybe 5 inches)
1 Hippo (maybe 3-4 inches)
1 Coral beauty
1 6 line
1 Eng gobie
1 Lawn mower
2 Bang Cardnials (in the fuge/sump till they grow up)
That's it....hahahaha.
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 5:58pm |
Dutch wrote:
Well here's my list...it seems like alot of fish but it stills seems empty in the tank: |
I know how that goes. In my 130 I have:
Fire Shrimp
Lawnmower blenny
Scooter blenny
3 bar gobies
2 scissor gobies (supposedly, I only see one 99% of the time)
2 perc clowns
bartlett anthias
royal grammas
sapphire blue damsel
rolland 's damsel
talbot's damsel
yellow/blue chromis (or damsel)
javanese damsel
blue sided wrasse
red wrasse
For another day or two baby cortez ray, her tank is ready just need to move her.
It seems like a lot of fish, but they are only all out when I feed them. The rest of the time they are swimming in and out of the rockwork so you have to watch for them. They are also really small fish by comparison to tangs, so they don't take up much space visually. I want to get a couple more gobies to add to the school of bar and scissortail, but need to move my ray first to keep the bio load low. Rays are a lot of fun but eat a lot, which means that much more waste.
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 6:01pm |
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14 gallons per fish right now in my 72 bowfront, and 23 gallons per fish right now in the 200 something cube :)
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 6:15pm |
34 gallons of water. One 1" Purple chomis and one 2" Orchid Dottyback.
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 6:57pm |
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I think of it more in terms of how much maintenance do you want, high maintenance = high fish load= lots of water changes.
even when I had a 55 gallon fresh water tank years ago, I kept the fish load down, so that I would have less trouble with the water changes, additives etc, plants would have a chance to grow that sort of thing.
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