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Topic: ID Posted: November 20 2009 at 11:31am |
I have had this coral for about 6 months. It grows at a slow to moderate rate and I have fragged off a couple pieces. Just wondering what its called.
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 11:33am |
Looks like woods polyps to me!
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 12:07pm |
I'd call it Anthellia. I wonder if they are one in the same?
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 12:13pm |
im about 99.99% positive it is the same
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 12:15pm |
Yep, scientific name Anthellia.
It can become a pest because it can grow fast and be hard to scrape off of the rock. I love it though. It brings back memories. Woods Polyps is the first frag I ever actually brought home from a place. The place was the original and possibly first ever coral farm http://www.garf.org
I loved how that coral grew fronds almost 2" long and was like "amber waves of grain" in my early reef tank that was possibly Adams inspiration to get into the hobby. 
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 1:12pm |
Maybe this is something different. I have some Anthellia that grows fast and is deffinately hard to scrape off the rocks but this grows more slowly and is easily controlled. The anthellia forms a solid encrusting mat on whatever it grows on but the mat on this grows in a string between polyps that is not invasive.
Here is a close up of the coral in question
Here is anthellia
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 1:22pm |
Must be a gotta see it kinda thing. They look the same to me from those pictures.
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 1:26pm |
lol bill i was going to say the same thing!
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 1:26pm |
If you look closely at the base of the coral you will see that it is brown and wood like on the first picture but in the second picture the pink color goes all the way down to the encrusting mat. The coral on the first picture almost looks like it has a root base and the Pink base of anthellia is a solid mass.
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 5:13pm |
OK guys, I'm not crazy. There is another difference in these corals. The coral in question does retracts into the stem of the polyp when disturbed. The anthelia does not retract.
I'll try to take a side by side picture when my camera's battery charges again.
I know the second picture isn't very clear but please tell me you can see a difference in the base/mat of these 2 corals.
Edited by bfessler - November 20 2009 at 5:15pm
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 6:51pm |
Clove polyps? That is what mine do.
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 8:29pm |
I think your right Nich.
Doing a search for clove polyps I find lots of varieties but when I look at their mat it looks more like the clove polyps.
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 8:51pm |
Here are pics of the two corals side by side.
In the first picture both corals are extended. In the second picture I shook both corals to make them retract. The Anthelia doesn't retract but the Clove Polyp does.
It's amazing how similar they look when fully extended.
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Posted: November 21 2009 at 8:22am |
I hope that Jake Pehrson will jump in here and add his well informed comments to my 2 cents.
"Woods Polyps" is what LeRoy Headlee of GARF called it when he gave me a frag back in 1996 and that frag populated the entire WMAS for a time.  It's scientific name is probably Anthelia Glauca. There are many coral in the Anthelia family. Interesting that in parts of the US the common name for our Woods Polyps is Clove Polyps. A group of Anthelia that have the common name Daisy Polyps can be confused with Xenia because of their shape and pulsing action.
Accepting the idea that any coral can be given a common name that sticks, consider the Hammer, Anvil and Frogspawn. According to Julian Sprung in his coral book, these may all simply be varieties or morphs of the same coral scientifically known as Euphyllia. Strangely, I've noticed many new hobbyists morphing the "Hammer" into "Hammerhead". 
 This whole thing about names can be complicated and confusing.
The first thing to understand is that common names may not even resemble the scientific name, for instance who would guess that the simple little Mushroom could be confused with the potentially humongous coral commonly known as a Toadstool.
Mushrooms are scientifically Actinodiscus while the Mushroom, Toadstool or even Umbrella Leather Coral is a Sarcophyton. Adding to the confusion, I pluralize the Actinodiscus Coral as Mushrooms, with an "s" yet because of it's typical growth as a single individual I call the Sarcophyton "a" Mushroom Leather Coral.
And sometimes the coral a hobbyist calls a Mushroom may actually be in the Ricordia family. 
We often use the name Star Polyps for two different coral familyies, Clavularia and Briarium. (Briarium is also known as Encrusting Gorgonia  ...Now this is amazing, as I just now searched the name Clavularia, in the thumbnail pic as one of the top hits, the Glove or Clove polyps are sitting right next to the Star Polyps! Amazing confusion! ) Going back to the differences Burt noted in the way his two Anthelia coral grow, in each of the "Star Polyp" families are some that grow a solid mat and some that grow tube runners between the individual polyps. 
So....When it comes to coral names, I wouldn't get all worked up about it.  
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Posted: November 21 2009 at 10:02am |
I found the name during some exhaustive research...they are actually called Burt Polyps after their famous cultivator, Burt Fessler. I am so happy to be able to unravel this delicate issue. 
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Posted: November 21 2009 at 10:52am |
 
It's amazing how many corals look similar, but have different charictoristics in growth and form and are all related or given the same name. When looking at a particular corals suitability for a particular location in the tank it becomes difficult to know what your going to get.
There are so many forms of xenia and anthelia and some are very invasive while others are easily controlled. I got these 2 corals about the same time from club members when I first started stocking my Nano. The one spread like crazy and the other was much easier to keep. When so many corals share the same name how do you find the one with the charictoristics you want?
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