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Topic: Long Tentacle Anemone Posted: October 13 2010 at 10:51pm |
I just got a Long Tentacle Anemone about a week ago. At first he settled right in, dug a home in the sand and seemed good. Lately he has been moving everywhere and for the past couple of days he will not plant his foot anywhere. He just bounces wherever, even into the overflows. Does anyone know if this is normal or if he is just not healthy? 
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 11:14pm |
It sounds like your anemone is dying. Long tentacle anemones need intense lighting provided by Halides, or T5's anything less eventually leads to their death. The pale/clear appearance also indicated poor health and condition. Have you fed it? Anemones do need to be fed, especially in tanks where the lighting may not be intense enough to support them.
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 11:26pm |
No I have not fed it. What would you feed it? Should I get rid of it and give it to someone with more intense lighting?
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 11:33pm |
I hate to say this, and maybe someone else can chime in. But at this point if it doesn't respond to feeding I would say it's too far gone. It can be fed mysis. Defrost if and then use a turkey baster or syringe to put the mysis in the center of the anemone. I would watch for the first signs of it starting to "melt" or come apart. Depending on how large it is the death of an anemone could potentially crash a 29 gallon tank. I would add a good amount of carbon if you have it handy.
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 12:08am |
I agree with the Capn' on this one. White is NOT a good color. How long has the tank been up and what kind of lighting do you have? Keep an eye out on the poor guy so you don't crash your system.
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 1:52am |
It was bright white when I bought it. I will look out for it melting but this seems way fast to me no?
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 1:54am |
Anemones can go downhill fast. That's why they can sometimes be so problematic.
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 1:59am |
I just got home and its not looking very good.... I think I might have to get rid of it just to save the tank. Is there anything else that I should do to the tank now that it is gone as far as water changes etc? Is there an anemone that will live under these lights?
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 2:04am |
How many watts of light are you running in your Nano? Usually GBTA's or RBTA's will do ok, but they still require supplemental feeding. If you have any carbon I would add a fresh handful.
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 2:11am |
I just did a water change yesterday and added a bunch of carbon. Would you do it again?
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 2:17am |
If it's fresh carbon you're probably ok.
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 10:58am |
Many people think pure white anemones are extremely pretty, and are sometimes told they are rare when they purchase them. However, anemones are not supposed to be white so never buy an anemone that is pure white.
All anemones, at least the ones we want to put in our tanks, have symbiotic algae, zooxanthellae, that help to feed them. The color of the zooxanthellae are what determine the color of the anemone. A white anemone has expelled all of it's zooxanthellae and is not healthy. (Zooxanthellae are not white.) This sometimes happens during the stress of shipping, especially if the collector, wholesaler, or LFS has not kept it under sufficient lighting. It is very difficult to nurse such an anemone back to health once it reaches this stage. I have heard from a few that have had such luck that they were dissapointed that their beautiful white anemone is now kind of a brownish, or greenish color and "I wonder what I'm doing wrong." In fact it's what they are doing right that caused the color to change back to a healthy one.
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 1:19pm |
Will Spencer wrote:
Many people think pure white anemones are extremely pretty, and are sometimes told they are rare when they purchase them. However, anemones are not supposed to be white so never buy an anemone that is pure white.
All anemones, at least the ones we want to put in our tanks, have symbiotic algae, zooxanthellae, that help to feed them. The color of the zooxanthellae are what determine the color of the anemone. A white anemone has expelled all of it's zooxanthellae and is not healthy. (Zooxanthellae are not white.) This sometimes happens during the stress of shipping, especially if the collector, wholesaler, or LFS has not kept it under sufficient lighting. It is very difficult to nurse such an anemone back to health once it reaches this stage. I have heard from a few that have had such luck that they were dissapointed that their beautiful white anemone is now kind of a brownish, or greenish color and "I wonder what I'm doing wrong." In fact it's what they are doing right that caused the color to change back to a healthy one.
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I was told this when buying a tank that had a "rare" white anemone luckily I had read enough to know better. The anemone survived and split and I have two pieces of it in my now better lighting system but as you said they are a brownish color and every once in awhile get a green hugh to them.
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 2:08pm |
So frustrating! I know that I should know more before buying things, but surely the store owners do know what they are selling to a completely naive person. Thanks for all of your help!
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 2:28pm |
I agree that white on a LTA is a bad sign.
The condition is known as bleaching.
If you are looking to get rid of it before it dies and crashes your 29, I have a 225 tank with 400 watt halides.
I'd be glad to come get it from you and try to nurse it back to health.
If it dies in my tank I have so much water volume it would not be a big deal - other than being a little messy when it 'melts'...
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 5:07pm |
Haley'sfish wrote:
So frustrating! I know that I should know more before buying things, but surely the store owners do know what they are selling to a completely naive person. Thanks for all of your help! |
You aren't always dealing with the store manager/owner just the hired help. A lot of times they know less than you because their experience is limited to taking care of the store. We could probably make a 10 page list of stupid stuff fish store workers have told us that is completely wrong. It's not all of them.... but some of them have pretty limited knowledge. Make sure you do your research before buying any livestock to make sure you can take care of it or that it will do well in your tank. Not every fish or coral out there is going to do well in just any old sw tank. They have very specific needs that sometimes aren't even met by high end tanks.
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 11:31pm |
I agree with everything above. I would take Bob up on his offer. Especially because he is so close to you. Plan B, you could place it in some kind of cage like a Strawberry basket and set it near the top of the tank to get more light. An Avocado bag or Bridal Veil material loosely gathered around it can be a good way to hold it in place up high on the rocks. Also, if you have any coral in the tank, do some scraping and/or rubbing of those coral. The zooxanthellae algae that get released into the water can be taken up by the Anemone. Without the symbiotic algae to feed it, the coral dies. Feel free to keep my phone number with you, so the next time you visit a LFS and have a question, you can call me right on the spot. My number has been posted in my signature line for more than 6 years just for this kind of immediate assistance.
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Posted: October 15 2010 at 9:59am |
Bob- I would have gladly taken you up on that, I got home Wednesday night late and I think it was safe to say it was "melting". I appreciate your offer though, I wish I would have asked all of this earlier.
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Posted: October 15 2010 at 10:38am |
You pulled it out of the tank right? Don't let it melt in the tank
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