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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: fire fish HELP!!!! Posted: September 30 2011 at 4:56pm
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   I bought a fire fish 3 days ago, he was eating good  then yestarday half of his back fin was gone then today the whole fin is missing any help please. 
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   What are the other fish in the tank?
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   k my tank is a 29 gal. livestock is just one clown fish,hermit crabs and coral there is some spaghetti worms on the rock and sand i don't think that would harm the fish tho. 
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   may have been the clown being aggresive to the new comer.
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   The clown is most likely the culprit! Anemonefish are extremely aggressive, you should see my hand to prove my point. I would imagine that is your issue.Did you acclimate? How long? In a container?
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   i had him in the acclimating box for 30min now i caught him again and put him inside there again I'm thinking on living him inside there for a couple of days, i also put some garlic with the food but he does not want to eat anything since yestarday | 
 
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   What kind of clown is it?
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   its a percula
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   How's the fire fish doing?
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: October 02 2011 at 8:24am | 
 
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   here is what i would do. poor little fire fish. from now on this should be your motto. always put clowns in last. i learned that with my perc and tailspot blenny, however the tailspot teases the perc more than anything now. leave the fire fish in your acclimation box, shut the lights off and do some aqua scaping( move all your rocks around ) leave the lights off when your done just until the water clears up a bit and then let the fire fish go. then turn on the lights. your giving it a chance to find a hole to hide in b4 the perc can figure out what happened to his home and reestablish a territory. maybe get another 2 fire fish as well. they are schooling fish. they like company. 
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   I really wish someone had told me not to add clownfish so early.  They were the second type of fish I added to my tank and they have significantly changed the type of fish I can put in my tank now.  Whenever I think about a new tank resident, I have to make sure that I get something that is large enough and aggressive enough to intimidate my clowns enough that they won't kill it.  My clown fish have killed several fish and I have had to take my tank apart to get fish out before they killed them.  If you haven't seen any visible aggression from the clowns towards the fire fish, then yours are a lot more mellow than mine.  Especially in a tank as small as yours, I'm that much more surprised.  I get bit by my clowns every time I put my hand in my tank that is about 3 times the size of your nano.
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   Fish training, as given in the Reefkeeping Tips below.   It really works. Yes, it really works if given attention. Almost any fish, if given it's own home for even just a week or two will be territorial.Perceived  food supply is the main reason for aggression. In public aquariums they pack in as many fish as they can, they feed like crazy, the fish get overweight and lose some of the territorial aggression. Of course the systems are set up with massive external filtration to remove the pollution. After all is said and done, Anemonefish are  in the sub family of Damsels, Amphiprione.
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   he didn't make it, but thank you guys for all the info.
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   sorry to hear that....
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     i think im going to sell that clown and put less agressive fish in it.
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   No matter what kind of fish you get, almost any type of fish has the ability to be aggressive.  It is worth looking at Mark's Reef Keeping tips on introducing new fish to see how you can make the transition with a new fish work.  It can take a lot of intensive involvement to get your current tank inhabitants to accept a new resident, especially since they are used to eating all of the food you give them.
 Clowns aren't usually hard to sell, since they are really popular.  My best luck has been in making sure that any new fish I add are large enough to intimidate my clowns.  And making sure to increase feeding when I add a new fish.  Food makes everybody less stressed : )
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: October 04 2011 at 2:49pm | 
 
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   As well as what russianrick said an acclimation box helps a lot too.  I always feed a few minutes after introducing a new fish and then every day for a few days after.(I usually only feed 2-3 times a week) And that seems to help.
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: October 04 2011 at 3:48pm | 
 
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   You know that you can feed more, but the fish does not. That's why I said it's the perceived  food supply. FYI, Firefish are very sensitive and more difficult to keep, pretty much impossible in some tanks. I agree, an acclimation container is a wise thing no matter what kind of fish. Keep the new fish in the container long enough to see if the current residents will learn to be kind. Training starts when the acclimation container with new fish is first set in the tank. An acclimation box can be as simple as a quart sized plastic salad cup from the deli. With an elastic to hold bridal veil fish net material over the top, put a small rock and some macroalgae in with the fish to give it hiding places. Let the container sink to the bottom and watch the other fish. If they even look wrong at the new guy use the training stick.      | 
 
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   I love the training stick, my clown doesn't bite me anymore, he does do occasional love nips. But that's it.   After the first time he bit me i chased his butt all over the tank for a solid 3 min, I was so mad he bit me!   Then I got the stick after my hand and arm got tired. And chased him some more!  I have him with a purple fire fish, a tailspot blenny and a royal gramma. You can do this!
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