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Posted: October 14 2005 at 3:53pm |
I have an issue. I bought several tulip anemones not too long ago, but after seeing tulip anemones in Arjen's tank during reef tour, I noticed they looked somewhat different than mine. Seeing the picture at the start of the recent majano outbreak, I think I may have purchased majanos. They've spread, but thus far they've stayed on the rock they came on, so at this point I'm not too concerned, but if they're majano anemones I'd like to get them out before I have a problem.
Would someone who can tell the difference come by my house sometime and give me a diagnosis? I live in Sandy at about 11500 South and 1500 East. Please PM me.
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Posted: October 14 2005 at 4:07pm |
As far as I can tell, Tulip Anemone == Majano
<snip from http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemidfaq3.htm >
Hi, I attached a picture and have been going
around and around with a few people about what
exactly these little guys are called I have been calling them Tulip
Anemone's and some people have been calling them Aiptasia
Anemone's......lol Now I know the difference and would never give away
the dreaded ones on purpose, but have I been doing that by mistake?
<this is a handsome Anemonia (so called Majano cf. species). They
can be a plague just as easily as Aiptasia. For those with good water
quality though (good nutrient export, control of particulates at large,
etc) they present no problem and may be enjoyed. I find them to be very
attractive>
These guys in the picture split pretty easy when fed directly and are
rather beautiful especially when you have a small cluster of them
growing in the same area they do not seem to get much larger than a
quarter. What do you think they are? Thank You for your time,
<best regards, Anthony>
</snip>
Not a very frindly anemone at all  .
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Posted: October 14 2005 at 4:17pm |
Here is a picture of what I have. I'm sorry the picture isn't clear, I can't get my autofocus to do anything but focus on the front glass. They are in the upper left of the picture.
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Posted: October 14 2005 at 4:29pm |
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Hard to tell from that pic. Search for Majano on google and you will find many pics.
They look like small buble tip anemone and they can really cause havoc
in a tank. I thought they were cool at first so I kept them and they
have sence killed a few corals and spread throughout the tank. It is
very frustrating to have to deal with these guys because there is very
little that can be done to kill them other then kalking and removing.
They are worse than aiptasia because there is no natural preditor that
is reef safe.
If it were me and it looked like a small colorful bubbletip(like the
other pics) I would return it and demand my money back. If I couldn't
get my money I would definately inject them with kalk while there were
only a couple.
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Posted: October 14 2005 at 5:22pm |
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Even from the blurry pic, I am pretty sure you have Majanos.
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 12:42pm |
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the best thing to do is to throw that rock into the dumpster right away.
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 11:25am |
 Firefish wrote:
the best thing to do is to throw that rock into the dumpster right away. |
This is crazy talk IMO. Although many people do not like them, because they get out of control, many pet stores will take them in trade. I think they are great for nano-reef also. Many people keep them in their main tank, although they can get out of control.
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 1:22pm |
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The only reason I say that is because any time I mess with one 5 more show up. I have tried killing them and I know by doing so I have made a bigger problem. Nipping it in the bud is the best way to do it in my opinion. You have them all on one rock....you are lucky but only if you take care of the problem right away by getting rid of that rock. If you wanna sell them to fish stores that would be fine but make sure that you don't squish any in the process, they multiply.
Frankly I'm tired of those things being in circulation. One of these days someone is going to introduce something that we think is really cool to all of us and all of our tanks will be wiped out. (red bugs, majano, aptaisia,......) Whats next.
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 1:45pm |
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These guy's are not cute when they are crowding your soft corals!
If you like them, then keep them. Just plan on having them everywhere
in the tank at some time in the future. Also, there is NO natural way
that I have found to rid a tank once it has been infested. So when you
decide that you don't like them and you want to add some better
inhabitants you can look forward to pulling live rock and injecting
them individually.
IMO, These are pest anemone's and should not be traded or sold.
BTW, I'm dealing with this exact problem right now and it is more frustrating then aiptasia!
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 8:04pm |
I like those Tulip Anemones and they cause no trouble in my tank. I originally got one from Coryk. Thanks Cory. I love how this anemone splits and gives me more of it's pretty self to look at.
I'm truly sorry that Ghetto Man feels these are bad. Five months ago I delivered to his home, some coral and LR with one or more of these anemones on it. He added it to his relatively bare reef tank. The pic is blurry, but it looks pretty nice to me. I like the colors. If he wants to return the rock to me, I'll be happy to give him other LR or coral in trade.
There is a particular Butterflyfish that loves all these types of anemones, both Majano and Aiptasia. It is the Kleins Butterflyfish. MSM has them in stock most of the time.
One last thing - I have a few Aiptasia in my tank, but before you run away screaming, please take a moment to try to understand. These organisms are part of the natural reef. They are not evil. They do not need to be excorcised from the tank. They just need to be managed.
Managing reef aquarium problems is effectively done with numerous methods which are known to people on this MB. Don't be afraid or too proud to ask for help. Don't be afraid to tackle the problem. It may be easy or it may take some patience, but give this MB a chance to help. Don't give up and please don't throw it in the dumpster.
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 8:25pm |
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Well one thing that we must get clear is that those pictures show two different types of anemones. The variety in the blurry picture to me are actually pretty obvious as being the ones that are plaguing my tank right now. The ones with the pink tips I have never kept and know nothing about them, and I cannot comment on them. I'm sure that if you are keeping a reef tank that introducing a butterfly to help control the problem may be a bad idea because it might eat other corals and you don't want that. You do have a much smaller tank than mine and I'm sure that it is much easier to manage as Mark suggested. Forgive me if I speak so definatively, but in my experience with my large 210 gallon tank they are not right for me. They are unmanageable in my tank.
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:46pm |
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I have a bunch of tulip anemones in my tank. They are from CoreyK
originally. They spread slowly and do not like bright
light. Therefore I don't have problems with them crowding out my
acros. I don't think the same can be said for majano.
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:57pm |
Can someone clear up the difference between majano and a tulip anemone?
My comments have been based on my experience with the majano. Mine do
not have pink tips. They are brown with a nice green center. The
tenticles are bulbous like a bubble tip. They love the light and spread
very easily. I have a very hard time controlling these anemones. I wish
this plague on no man!! 
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 11:34pm |
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I didn't mean to literally throw the rock in the dumpster. I was thinking more along the lines of boiling it or something to get rid of the anemones. There is more info at http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemoniafaqs.htm and http://www.reefs.org/hhfaq/pages/main_pages/faq_rock1.htm
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Posted: October 18 2005 at 12:37pm |
jeffras wrote:
Can someone clear up the difference between majano and a tulip anemone? My comments have been based on my experience with the majano. Mine do not have pink tips. They are brown with a nice green center. The tenticles are bulbous like a bubble tip. They love the light and spread very easily. I have a very hard time controlling these anemones. I wish this plague on no man!!
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Jeff,
In short there is no differnce between a majano and a tulip anemone.
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Posted: October 18 2005 at 1:01pm |
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I've seen the ones that everyone raves over...the ones that everyone got from CoreyK, but maybe they look different in other peoples tanks. The ones CoreyK has have pretty pink tips, and everyone that I have seen with those don't seem to be taking over the tank. The green variety however, they seem to take over. I wouldn't think that they are the same thing. All I have to do is look at one wrong and another one springs up 5 feet away on the other side of the tank. The thing I hate most about them is the dread of knowing that one day I'm going to have to take my tank apart piece by piece in order to get to them and start all over again.
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Posted: October 18 2005 at 8:05pm |
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I agree with Mark. The pink tip tulip anenomes are colorful and although they multipy at will the color is great and for me make a great addition to my tank. BTW these also were from coreyk. At times they get to near to some of my other corals, so I cut them back and it slows their growth. I wish my other anonemes were as hardy as the tulips.
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Posted: October 18 2005 at 11:19pm |
Majano must be the term for any small pest anemone except for the Aiptasia which has it's own name!
I honestly think we are talking about two separate types of anemone. I mean that's like saying that a BTA is the same as an LTA. 
Boiling LR and returning it to the tank is the same as throwing it away, or maybe even worse because it kills everything and then asks the aquarium to deal with the pollution.
Aren't you interested in learning more about the Kleins Butterfly? You do not need to start over. I'm very serious about this. There are better solutions for problems like these than throwing it all out and starting over. But, if you wait too long, your tank might look like the one below. And yet even then it's like Thanksgiving dinner for a Kleins.
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Posted: October 18 2005 at 11:53pm |
Mark,
I'll try to post a pick of mine as soon as another one pops up (I just
finished another round of calcium injections, THEY LOVE IT!!!).
Since you have brough up the klein's and it may seem like I ignored
that suggestion in my first thread regarding majano (which is not the
case by any means ), I'll ask a few more questions about them.
Is this a fish that will eat only the majano and no other more favorable pets (like zoos, mushrooms, sps, etc)?
Would it need to come out after the tank is clear of the anemones?
I have tried to find more info about the kleins and have not come up
with much about them really going after the majano. I did find multiple
posts regarding training a butterfly/angel to eat these pest anemone's.
I noticed that all the butterflies seem to be lumped in the "May nip at
" or "Will nip at" section of the reef safe catagories. Also, from my
communications with Morgan Lidster from
inland aquatics (your suggestion for a Berghia supplier -- the aptasia
eating machines -- BTW we should go into business breeding these guys
in that tank you just posted, we would make a bundle  ) point to no proven natural preditor for the majano.
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