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    Posted: January 03 2008 at 11:32am
Shane H informed me that any posts made in the recommendation area are printed and discussed at the presidency meetings.  So, if anyone wants the new presidency to discuss something about this upcoming year or the club itself, get your recommendations in now. 
 
I myself am working on a list of recommendations for the message board.  I'll get it posted today or tomorrow.
 
 
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Thanks for posting this.  All topics here will certainly be discussed, and if you have suggestions on anything (especially the message board) then please do list them.
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I look forward to seeing your list Amie.

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Okay, I finally have my list composed

 
Message Board Suggestions:

First off, I have noticed a change in the message board in the past month or so because I know Shane H has been working hard to monitor the boards.  So I won't bring up the fact that the board needs to be monitored more because that obviously has been addressed.  Thanks Shane.

When I thought about the possibility of being a MB monitor, I came up with some ideas of how to change the MB to improve it.  So I'll just put my ideas here and hopefully the presidency will look some of them over. 

1)      Have multiple monitors.  More than just Shane.  I know this is a big burden on anyone, but it shouldn't have to be.  Other boards that I frequent have monitors for each individual forum.  There may be 1 or 2 monitors and those monitor's names would be listed right below the forum name on the first page of the board.  So, for example, under the Chemistry Forum it would look like this :

Chemistry

This is the place to ask question about chemistry.

Moderator: Jon Finch

 

Then  Jon, as the moderator of the Chemistry forum, would not only be in charge of making sure that there were not unwanted posts, but he would make sure 1) all posts were answered correctly, 2) if people were having problems, they would get the additional help they needed. Ie, follow-up, and 3) he could add 'sticky' posts for important or consistently asked chemistry questions.

 

 

I'm assuming that there is a way to set it up so a user could have have a password that would just give them access to their assigned forum, right? 

 

 

Maybe you noticed that I used Jon Finch as the moderator of Chemistry and he's not in the presidency.  Does everyone have to be in the presidency to volunteer their time?  (Just a thought.)

 

 

2)      Add a chemistry forum.  I know, I've been mentioning this for 3 years now...there's always hope.

 

3)      Add sticky notes above each forum that contain information that is asked over and over again.  This would be added by the individual moderator's at their discretion.  Or, add a general beginner's overview of the subject as a sticky.  This could be for beginner's to reference.  Ask for volunteer's from the group to write these for the individual forums and then have the moderator's approve/modify them before posting. 

 

3.5) Add a 'secret' chat forum.  This forum would only be available to those that attended the meetings and sign up for it in person.  They would have to re-sign up every 3 to six months to continue to have access to the forum.  When they sign in to the message board, the chat forum would appear just as the other forums appear.  But for others, they wouldn't even know it existed.  (Kind of like the presidency forum)  The purpose of this forum is just to chat but the only people that would be chatting would be those that have been to the meetings and have actually shown their faces.  In other words, no secret logins or people from out of state or unknown's, etc.  Everyone knows everyone on this forum.  This board will have less monitoring (political discussions allowed).  Of course, no slamming other people or pet stores, but I guess if they haven't signed up for that chat forum....) There may need to be some monitoring on this forum, but it certainly would be minimal.

 

        I really hope you consider this option because it has potential to solve a lot of problems that have existed on the board.  It gives the people that really know each other a place to chat without worrying that kids, LFS' or people from out of state are reading it.  An up-to-date list of who is on the forum should be available on the forum.  And there should be no exceptions to letting people in on the board.  You sign up in person, or you don't have access.  

4)       Add a Breeder's forum - There are so many people starting to raise different fish and inverts in this area.  The logs of the different people raising them could go here.  And the information of how to raise them could also go here.   Also, how to raise the food, i.e. Phyto, brine shrimp, rotifers, copepods, could be here.

 

5)      Add a reference manual link to the front page of the message board or each individual forum.  Sounds crazy, no?  There are so many great threads on this MB that I think it should be referenced as if it was a book.  Like, how to move a tank, how to go on vacation, different types of macro algae, DIY Calcium and Alk, how to remove bristle worms, plumbing a tank, etc., etc.    Some of these threads are priceless, but they are buried and rarely referenced unless you know they are there. 

 

Yep, I know you are going to throw this one out.  But, it was on my list of things I was going to do if I was working on the message board this year, so I'm putting it down. Wink

 

6)      Now onto the monitoring that everyone thinks of when they think of monitoring...monitoring the posts.  Currently, I think 3 people can actually delete posts, but mostly ShaneH has been handling this.  (I could be wrong about that.) This is a big job and I don't think it should have to fall on one person.  If you have it broken down into individual forums, those monitors can help with their forums, plus Shane could oversee the entire board.  When someone posts an inappropriate post, as stated in the rules when we all signed up for the MB, either their thread should be deleted individually or the entire thread should be deleted.  Then a very nicely worded pm should be sent to the person with a warning that they can have 3 strikes.  3 strikes means that if they post a 3rd inappropriate post within a certain period of time, then all their  known ip addresses (work, home and school) will be blocked for X number of months.  (It is very important to note that all presidency members should be included in this rule.) 

 

If the person feels that the post was deleted and shouldn't have been (or the strike against them was unwarranted)  there should be a way to petition the strike against them.  I think there should be a silent vote among the entire presidency.  The reason  I mention that it should be silent is because I know that some people don't say what they really feel because they are a little intimidated by other powers that be.   And the reason that I mention the entire presidency is so there are no small groups that try to eliminate people.  (which I'm sure would never happen, but just a precaution.)

 

7)      Finally, I think there should be a teaching forum.  When the message board gets a little slow and not much is going on, it would be cool if someone could start up a conversation about a subject that others could pipe in on and learn something about.  Possibly even invite someone from another forum that is knowledgeable in a given subject, i.e. Raising bangaii's, (FMarini), to come to the forum for a certain assigned hour and answer questions or talk about a given subject. 

 

Well, I think that's it.  Oh, one more thing.  I think that when you vote, you should also have on the ballot, a vote for a person that is in charge of the message board for that year as a head monitor, so to speak?  They would work in conjunction with Jake and the presidency to accomplish all these things.  Because, dang, this is a long list.

 edited: trying to eliminate strange characters.  One number change. No content change.



Edited by Amie - January 10 2008 at 2:52am
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Boy that was a mouthful of stuff to write about.  I think you have some good ideas,  I really like 7, 4, 5 and 6.  I hope the Presidency will act on some of these things and make our forum even better than it already is.
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Thanks for the list Amie. There are some great suggestions there. I encourage others to make their point of view known too.
 
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How come there's weird characters in my post.  Everywhere there's an apostophy, there's a strange character.  Do you guys see that?  Or is it just my computer?  I'll have to try to edit and fix it.  Maybe it's a Vista thing.
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Yes we see the strange characters. Did you paste this from Word?
 
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I would like to see TOTM updated and kept up with. Can someone be put in charge of this? There hasnt been a new one since august of 2007!!! thats four months of tanks!
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Sweet a Forum that talks about Chemistry.  This is cool and all but she is only 17 months old.LOL  Pretty much in a nutshell she is almost potty trained and is speaking a few sentences here and there.  I dont think we need a forum for this,  Just ASK ME.  Ill let you know how she is doing.  And i hope that i know more about her then Jon Finch, she is my daughter.   LOLLOLLOLLOL.
 
Just kidding Amie,  I think that is a good idea.  However would it be better to make a tag on front page that says.  For technical questions on specific subjects click here.  Once you clicked there it would bring up another page that has direct links to PM those that are majored in those subjects.
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Chemistry:  Jon Finch
Photogaphy:  Shane Silcox
Stands and Cabinets:  Dion Richins
Drama:  Suzy / Sukie / Jamison LOL
Guest Information: Adam Blundell
 
 


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Originally posted by Rhine Lenhart Rhine Lenhart wrote:

Sweet a Forum that talks about Chemistry.  This is cool and all but she is only 17 months old.LOL  Pretty much in a nutshell she is almost potty trained and is speaking a few sentences here and there.  I dont think we need a forum for this,  Just ASK ME.  Ill let you know how she is doing.  And i hope that i know more about her then Jon Finch, she is my daughter.   LOLLOLLOLLOL.
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Rhine Lenhart Rhine Lenhart wrote:

Drama:  Suzy / Sukie / Jamison LOL


Oh I'll give you drama!!!Wink
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Originally posted by sukie sukie wrote:

Originally posted by Rhine Lenhart Rhine Lenhart wrote:

Drama:  Suzy / Sukie / Jamison LOL


Oh I'll give you drama!!!Wink
 
You probably will but Rhine and Lisa brought Chemistry into this world.
 
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i believe that the moditors may not have to be on the presidency but other members that are on the board enough to be able to monitor items. the presidency has enough responsibility that haveing other members monitor the mb would help alot, even if the threads have to be reviewed by the presidency before it gets completely deleted. that way they have the final say in it. which shouldn't matter to much if the moditor has good judgement.

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YOU all are monitors. See the little button on the bottom of each post? It says REPORT. That is your power. Once pressed it is reviewed by up to 3 different individuals. Once reviewed it is determined if its in violation of the MB bylaws and dealt with from there.

 
PLEASE report any thread that you see is in violation. PLEASE include what bylaw it is in violation of and it will be dealt with. ALL on the board have this power. WE are all moderators.
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Unrelated, but we get a lot of "what is this" posts. Maybe a little compilation of those identifying things people find in their tanks would be cool. 
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good ideas Amie, I like all of them. Yes we are all moderators, I think that has the greatest impact on the spammers that we see from time to time.



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