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Posted: August 11 2010 at 10:40am |
"Nothing in the sea falls haphazard; if we cannot predict, it is because we do not know the cause, or how the cause works..."H.B. Bigelow, 1929 This is for you Jeff/Bugzme. If there truly is a factual reason for why things are, why do people so often ask for opinions and look to opinion polls on how to keep a reef tank? Opinions anyone? 
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 10:47am |
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Mark , Why is that for me? I ask and experiment to learn more.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 12:01pm |
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I think its true, because if you do something new and your NO3/NO4 spikes then you know what you did caused the issue.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 12:18pm |
In my opinion its true, do to the fact that we are not just trying to keep one life form but trying to keep a whole ecosystem in check. while the ocean have trillions of water and millions of lifeform to keep from going downhill. Animals have vets but what do we have only ourself and others that have experience. Just one single thing can make the whole reef go wrong and without proper knowledge we cant know what will happen next or what have cause it to go wrong.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 1:21pm |
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I think we ask to confirm our own hypothesis, not looking for opinon but experiences.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 1:40pm |
 Mark Peterson wrote:
If there truly is a factual reason for why things are, why do people so often ask for opinions and look to opinion polls on how to keep a reef tank? Opinions anyone?
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I think there truly are factual reasons for why things are (in reef tanks and ocean), its just that most of us do not know what these are. You have to be a biologist/chemist to know these types of things. So we poll for opinions/experience because that is the next best thing.
Some of the things that happen in the sea (as in all areas of life) are still not known even by those biologists/chemists. I think that is one of the factors that interests me in the hobby, the fact that it is an adventure and there is such fragility to it all.
Thanks, Chris
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 1:50pm |
Opinions are just how each person interprets the experiences and knowledge they have obtained while trying to impart it to another person.
Thus in our quest for knowledge related to our fish tanks (and other areas of life) we ask for opinions hoping to glean the gems of knowledge that can be imparted via others and help us along our way to better our tank.
IMHO
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Was that in there yesterday? Casper--WY windier than ?
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 1:53pm |
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I still don't know why Mark said this thread was for me. Not a problem though
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 1:56pm |
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I think he's just poking fun at you Jeff.
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Was that in there yesterday? Casper--WY windier than ?
Down to a 20, soon to double or nothing
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 1:57pm |
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your other post about waiting for post like a vulture.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 2:02pm |
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I read about aquariums at least 4 hrs. a day and learn something new each day.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 5:54pm |
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Heck Mark that quote is older than me. I think this hobby has come along way since then because of people that like to experiment and make things better
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 7:30pm |
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Mark said it was for you because in your other post you said nothing interesting was happening. If you look in that post he's linked this post for you.
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None at the moment
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 8:55pm |
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Whatever!! that's not what I meant!!!! I just don't need to reply to his post
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 9:23pm |
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I don't get it.
He posted something to get discussions going because you said nothing was happening. I took it as a "Well lets discuss!" Not as a jab at you. Looks like it may have worked though the board has been pretty active today!
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None at the moment
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Posted: August 12 2010 at 5:17pm |
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Posted: August 12 2010 at 5:19pm |
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This is where that came from
www.bigelow.org
very interesting stuff, especially what they say about the oil spill
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Posted: August 12 2010 at 5:47pm |
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even creatures on land and sea communicate with each other for the basic necessities of life. and we search forums for the same reason. for basic necessities. for our tanks optimal survival.
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Posted: August 12 2010 at 6:08pm |
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It's crap in my opinion! Mark has his ways and I have mine!! No problem though!
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Posted: August 12 2010 at 6:11pm |
I say Fact "Shmact" and Fancy "Shmansy"! 
Here's a better question:
Jeff, Mark, Chris, Nathan, etc.......
Are you going to the WMAS BBQ on August 28th???!!!
You all better be! 
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