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rfoote
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Topic: Anemone Suggestions Posted: May 22 2003 at 12:08pm |
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I am thinking of adding my first anemone to my tank. I am wanting something that is fairly hardy, colorful, and hopefully that doesn't move all over the place - don't know if that is possible. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Posted: May 22 2003 at 12:27pm |
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Don't mean to hijack your thread, but with anemones, anyone know of good host anemones for ocellaris clownfish? My 2 clowns have decided to host in my goniopora. People on Reefcentral seem to think thats bad (although I have never seen the goniopora react to it, even with both swimming right inside it.)
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Posted: May 22 2003 at 12:41pm |
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twflint - No problem. I am wanting mine as hosts for tomato clowns.
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Posted: May 22 2003 at 2:45pm |
If you have a reef only tank I personally do not recommed them, because of their movement. They will go over anything and sting also.
In a fish only tank I have seen Bubble Tips very widely used with Ocellaris and Tomato Clowns very nicely.
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Posted: May 22 2003 at 4:38pm |
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I bought a green bubble tip anemone about 3-4 months ago and it has done quite well. Bubble tip anemonies tend to wander to a rock, generally a rock that has an over hang or a ledge that they can atatch to the underneath of--something that will give them some sort of protection but allows them to peek out for some sun. I think that is the benefit with a bubble tip, that is once they find their rock or nitch, they tend to stay there--at least mine has. Don't get your hopes up that your clown fish is going to take to it. My False percula clown (tank raised) which has hosted to my colt coral still hasn't paid any attention to the anemone.
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Posted: May 22 2003 at 4:40pm |
Anemones are not the easiest things to take care of. They require adequate lighting, good water quality, a well established system, and fed regularly. Also they will move until they locate a place in the tank that suites them well. However, they will sometimes get the idea to just move to another spot, and this is unpredictable. So if you think that you can just place the anemone and it will stay, is not a likely scenario. That means like what John said, they will sting things as they move around (corals). Another thing to think about is that any small fish or even large fish could become a meal. Also you want to make sure that you get a healthy specimen. That is usually ones that do not have any tears in the tissue, sticky to the touch, the mouth is tight (closed), tentacles look normal, and if you want…see it eating.
If I were to recommend an anemone it would be the Entacmaea quadricolor (bubble tipped anemone). As it has one of the least powerful stings. Also it is the one that more aquarist has success in keeping. But that is still debatable – success that is.
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Posted: May 22 2003 at 4:43pm |
Jwallent, you might want to check out reefcentral as they have several suggestions on their site on how you might be able to get the clown to host in the BTA.
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Posted: May 22 2003 at 5:39pm |
For ease of keeping I'd go with a quadricolor like WhiteReef said. Mine have been basically indestructible and I haven't fed them directly in over 2 years (not that I recommend that). I started with one and after 3 splits I gave one to Jeff Hite and have the remaining 3 in my tank. FWIW, mine have never moved once they attached to a rock but they do pose a bit of a challenge for placing other corals around the tank...
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Posted: May 23 2003 at 6:49am |
You can check out pics of my bta. My web page link is in my profile.
Anyway anemones are unpredictable. The bta I have moved quit a bit until it found a spot. Now it stays there. I would say if you have an anemone that it be your center peice. It may sting and kill a couple corals. Mine did. Also they are not super easy to keep. I would recomend a well esablished tank. Also one more thing. It took my clowns months to become atached to the anemone. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Posted: May 23 2003 at 9:09am |
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I've got some false clowns as well and I've been looking at a bubble tip or long tentacle, because they're reportedly the easiest to keep. Which do you think I would have the best chance of them going into? And what kind of radius would you need other corals away from a anenome if it wasn't moving. Thanks - Tim
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Posted: May 23 2003 at 9:18am |
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Tim, are you speaking of the long tentacle with the point at he end or the rounded end. Why I ask is because the one with the point at the end is a rather aggressive fellow. I personally wound go with the rounded species or the Bubble Tip. IMO
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Posted: May 23 2003 at 9:31am |
Here are the anemones that False Perculas will most likely accept (in my experience).
Almost always: Stichodactyla gigantea Stichodactyla mertensii Heteractis magnifica
Sometimes: Entacmaea quadricolor Stichodactyla haddoni
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Posted: May 23 2003 at 9:34am |
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I think that the bubble tips are great. Tim you are just setting up a tank right? If so I would wait till your tank is about a year established. Also On raduis its hard to say becuase the anemone will grow.
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Posted: May 23 2003 at 9:46am |
I've seen alot BTAs that look very different in shape and color, are there multiple species? Are some of them easier? What are some of the 'cooler' colors to look for? and does anyone have one for sale? ;)
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Posted: May 23 2003 at 9:54am |
Anyone have any idea how to remove a BTA from the rock it's attached to?
I've got a small BTA that came with my live rock (I got someone's existing rock). I haven't/still don't want him in my tank, but have been unsuccessful at removing him. He's problably not the most healthy guy on the block, he was about the size of a quarter when I got him, now he's usually about 2 1/2 to 3" in diameter, but I haven't purposefully fed him in over a couple months (I thought I might starve him into moving).
Ryan, don't know if you remember seeing him or not when you were over, but you can have him if I can get him out of his hole.
The rock can not be taken out of the tank, whatever is suggested must be done in-situ.
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Posted: May 23 2003 at 4:31pm |
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I have hear of putting ice on the foot. What would be better though would be to direct current on him . Be carful not too much. The change in current can cause him to move to a more desiralbe location. Dont kill the poor guy. I would be gald to come get hime if no one else want him. I love the BTA I have.
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Posted: May 23 2003 at 4:59pm |
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Jon, I constantly have to remove anemones from rock when I sell them. It does take a couple minutes. I just try to get a finger nail under part of the foot and then "rub" it back. Eventually they will give up and let go. But be careful, you can tear them.
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Posted: May 23 2003 at 8:43pm |
Wow look at these posts. I was avoiding this topic for a while to see what everyone else would say. I'm surprised that no one took a "natural" way of looking at it. Yes I know this isn't natural but....
For the Tomato clowns (or anemonefishes for the smart people ) I would recommend an Entacmaea quadricolor since that is the only anemone they live with in nature. Plus these bulb tips are my faves and people here seem to recommend them as good anemones.
For the ocellaris there are three natural host anemones Heteractis magnifica Stichodactyla gigantea and Stichodactyla metensii. I don't have preference on any of these. In fact, I think I would still go with a quadricolor.
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Posted: May 26 2003 at 11:00pm |
I've got three types of anemones. This is what they do in my tank. I've got a Haddon's Carpet that loves deep sand, eats very expensive fish and looks even prettier the day after doing so, doesn't move at all if he has the correct lighting and deep enough sand to live in. I've had it for 2 years....very hardy if fed twice a month and given bright light.
Small bubble tip anemone, moves all over the place but never seems to bother any corals or fish(I think because it is so small....as big around as a silver dollar) I have two pink skunk clowns in the same tank that show no interest in it, in fact they like my hammer coral better. I've had this one for about six monthes and it is doing really well.....very hardy. I've seen it living under rocks for days and low in the tank, so I think it doesn't need very intense light.
I have recently bought a giant carpet that is very very beautiful. I'm still trying to figure out the kind of light and conditions it likes. It doesn't move much at all so I think it may like the lighting it is in right now, but there seems to be something missing. It has gotten a little smaller and not as full as it once was. It may need halide lighting, for which I have none. It may need lots of specific food that I have not discovered. It is very sticky to the touch but when I try feeding it silver sides it will grab them at first but then let go. It houses a pair of ocellaris sometimes, that is if the clarki that I have doesn't kick them out. (Both carpets are in the same tank as one another along with the three clowns.) I'm affraid this carpet may die if I don't do something for it soon. I'm working that out right now. I believe it may need frequent LIVE feeding.
Just thought you might want to know my experience with them.
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