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Posted: April 30 2012 at 10:03pm |
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As in did I figure out exactly what was wrong? Or did it die?
I still don't know exactly what it had, and it died a day or two after my last post in here. Every other fish and the tank has been super healthy ever since. No idea what weird thing got that tang.
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Posted: April 30 2012 at 9:21pm |
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What happened? :)
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 7:33pm |
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Thats pretty incredible, i for sure wont after reading that.
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 6:56pm |
I know this sucks, but please don't give up on him. My purple tang was lying on his side gasping for breath, covered in ich, and had one of the worst cases of HLLE I've ever seen. He pulled through, and so can yours.
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 6:45pm |
 ptronsp wrote:
Laird did you notice if he got skinnier? He looks really thin. Was that another one of the symptoms?
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I had been so busy fragging coral every time that I was at the tank for the last week or so that I didnt really notice how skinny it was. It was always a great eater but never grew since I got it and also always stayed pretty thin compared to the other fish.
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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.
Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 6:43pm |
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I'm pretty sure its gone beyond saving at this point. Its fins are pretty much history. sad to lose a pet but 3 years is a good run for a powder blue.
I just hope that none of the other fish pick up any symptoms.
All the other fish still look fat and happy and I picked up thera +A to start feeding. Its a anti parasitic pellet that Ryan said works really well.
Thanks for the help and concern.
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180 Gallons mixed reef paradise
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 5:41pm |
Reef'd Up wrote:
Sorry, I was trying to help from my phone at work. I meant to say Brooklynella, not Amyloodinium in my previous post/text. Amyloodinium can be treated with copper, but it's Brooklynella that is treated with formalin (sorry...again.)  Although Brook is normally associated with clownfish, it seems to fit in this case, especially given the "strange white spots" by the tang's head, sudden deaths, lack of appetite/weight loss (I'm assuming from the thinness of the tang), and fin condition. Couple that with a Psuedomonas gram negative bacteria as a secondary infection...and I think you have your culprit.    What I'd do is get the tang out of copper and into a QT tank. Start dropping the salinity and start dosing erythromycin since brook causes the fish to have difficulty with osmoregulation and to be more susceptible to infection.  Then start formalin dips to kill off the brook.     I have erythromycin and formalin here if you need it. Good luck!!
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I too was thinking the same thing with the Brooklynella..it is very difficult to treat from what I have heard. I am so sorry this is happening Laird. Pam
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 4:54pm |
Sorry, I was trying to help from my phone at work. I meant to say Brooklynella, not Amyloodinium in my previous post/text. Amyloodinium can be treated with copper, but it's Brooklynella that is treated with formalin (sorry...again.) Although Brook is normally associated with clownfish, it seems to fit in this case, especially given the "strange white spots" by the tang's head, sudden deaths, lack of appetite/weight loss (I'm assuming from the thinness of the tang), and fin condition. Couple that with a Psuedomonas gram negative bacteria as a secondary infection...and I think you have your culprit. What I'd do is get the tang out of copper and into a QT tank. Start dropping the salinity and start dosing erythromycin since brook causes the fish to have difficulty with osmoregulation and to be more susceptible to infection. Then start formalin dips to kill off the brook. I have erythromycin and formalin here if you need it. Good luck!!
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 4:25pm |
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Laird did you notice if he got skinnier? He looks really thin. Was that another one of the symptoms?
Pam
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The only clowns I like are in my tank!
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 2:36pm |
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If your using an iodine dip, bacteria should be eliminated, fungus are pretty hard to kill so I would be pretty surprised if anyone made any strong claims against fungus in their coral dip products. But I don't actually know what people claim, as I just use Iodine dropped into salt water from a bottle that is not marketed as an aquarium supply...so I am way out in la la land doing it my own way.
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57 Gallon RImless build in progress check the thread before if becomes boring and just full of nice pictures of colorful coral!
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 2:18pm |
Laird wrote:
I should rephrase that. I know that fungus and bacteria can come on frags and thats why everything frag and i mean every single frag that goes into the tank is dipped. I just meant that these particular kinds of bacteria that we are talking about can come on frags? |
Best of luck with your Tang. Does anyone know if coral dips are effective against bacteria and fungus that affect fish?
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 1:12pm |
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Damn this sucks bro I hope you can figure it out and dont lose anymore fish.
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 1:11pm |
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I should rephrase that. I know that fungus and bacteria can come on frags and thats why everything frag and i mean every single frag that goes into the tank is dipped. I just meant that these particular kinds of bacteria that we are talking about can come on frags?
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Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 1:04pm |
Laird wrote:
I just don't get how it could come out of know where like this. Can any of the possible fungus or bacterias come attached to frags? |
Absolutely.
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 12:48pm |
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I just don't get how it could come out of know where like this. Can any of the possible fungus or bacterias come attached to frags?
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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.
Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
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180 Gallons mixed reef paradise
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 12:40pm |
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I'd also like to add that the weird white gooey stuff on its tail was getting larger. Really weird.
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 12:38pm |
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I have it in a friends QT copper system now. Doubt it makes it but I needed to get it out of the tank.
Ryan at AD thought it was a fungus based on the pictures. But its weird that I've lost other nontang fish.
i don't know anything about amyloodinium, i'm researching it now.
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 11:41am |
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Btw, I'll be home at 5. I can swing by then and bring my arsenal of mess if you want. Sorry I'm on my phone.
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 11:29am |
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Based on the fish acting normally but having deteriorated fins I would guess a bacterial infection since fungal infections are rare in saltwater are rare. I would treat with a broad spectrum antibiotic. I want to say something i saw like this and it was gram negative. What about amyloodinium??
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Posted: February 21 2012 at 11:29am |
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I would get a hold of Reef'd Up ASAP.
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