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    Posted: June 05 2013 at 11:03am
So last night I got a blue spot jawfish which I acclimated by adding 1/2 cup after to his bag every 15 minutes for 1 hour. He seemed fine when I let him free in the tank. He was swimming around and even ate for me. Then I checked on him about and hour later and he was nowhere to be seen. I haven't seem him since. My tank is completely closed (RSM) and I've checked the sump and there's no sign of him. Do they often hide when first introduced and should I be worried? I have no intention of going through my rockwork to find him since that would cause stress to the tank an to him if he's still in there. The only other things in the tank are corals, a snowflake eel, peppermint shrimp, crabs/snails, and a moorish idol.

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When mine was added (although a different jawfish) it simply dug itself under one of the rocks and hid for about a day. He'll come out.
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I agree, he is hiding. On the RSM there is a 1/4-3/8" gap between the hood and the top of the false back that he could use to get into the sump area.
 
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I've checked the sump and there's no sign of him. The only possible trace of him is some shifted sand in the back but that very easily could've been the eel.
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Maybe the eel ate him. Mine ate a lot of things I didn't think he would.
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Ah, you didn't mention an eel hahaha. That could definitely be one reason you can't find it. A small fish like a goby/Jawfish that is relatively slow and stays along the bottom could very easily become a snack. Then again I see new sand piles popping up everywhere that are no doubt from my Jawfish. Keep us posted, It's still a new fish it could turn up.
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The eel is only 18" long, practically completely blind, and is relatively dumb. The Jawfish was able to dart around when he wanted to so I doubt he was eaten, but I guess it's possible.
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Aloha Ann,

Ermm Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but all Moray's have poor vision. They smell and then ambush their meals, dead or alive. Unhappy
I wish I had a pic of it, but one day I was walking across a semi-flat large expanse of rock where the waves come across. Out of the corner of my eye, I happened to notice a small head sticking out of a hole. I looked closer and saw several of them in similar holes. They were young Snowflake Morays. By the size of their heads I'd guess they were 6-12" long. I believe the way they catch food is to wait for crustaceans to crawl close and for small fish to come moving by with the waves. Morays can sense the prey when it gets an inch or two away and then they move at lightning speed. Their closeup vision and sense of smell help them aim their tooth filled mouth toward the meal.

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That was quite the expensive snack :/
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I was afraid of that....ah well if he somehow turns up then it'll be a nice surprise. Otherwise my eel will be out the door when I upgrade tanks and can actually catch him.
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Key here guys is small fish. The jawfish is no where close to small enough for a typical snowflake eel to be able to eat it.   My snowflake eel, which Anne has cared for while I was out of town, can barely get 1/4 inch chunks of shrimp in its mouth.   It lives happily with cleaner shrimp , fire shrimp, three mandarins , a very small cleaner goby (less than an inch long), small clown fish pair, and a school of chromis (some are also very small). I also have a blue dot jawfish. They are very smart, attentive, fast fish.

I find it impossible from personal experience for a snowflake eel to ambush and eat a jawfish of 3-4 inches in length. If the jawfish is not alive, it is dead in its den, from some other cause,   in the sand and the clean up crew will take care of the rest.

Don't be so quick to blame an eel. There are a multitude of reasons why a newly added fish dies.

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Found him!!!! He's been hiding in a burrow behind a rock in the front of my tank. He seems really shy though and doesn't come out except when food drifts right in front of his den. Hopefully he'll learn to come out more.
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Typical behavior. Give Him time to adjust. Glad you found his home.
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Originally posted by Ann_A Ann_A wrote:

Found him!!!! He's been hiding in a burrow behind a rock in the front of my tank. He seems really shy though and doesn't come out except when food drifts right in front of his den. Hopefully he'll learn to come out more.
 
 
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Great news Ann! When we feed we watch two places to make sure the fish are eating. The cardinals and the jaw fish. While the jaw fish will grab some pellets if it drops in front of him, the cardinals still only eat the mysis or other frozen foods so we make sure they get some. Depending on our blue spots the burrow of the day, we often have to squirt some food right next to him to make sure he gets it. 
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....And he's dead. Cry

I was watching the tank last night and my eel crept up on his burrow and the next thing I knew my eel was thrashing around and wrapping his body around something that was wiggling and trying to escape. No sign of the jawfish since. So I guess the eel is capable of eating a jawfish which means he's being evicted from the tank.
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...and...THAT SUCKS! Sorry Ann!
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Well. I guess I was wrong.    Sorry to hear. I must have an especially nice snowflake eel.
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