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    Posted: January 06 2010 at 3:33pm
Over the past couple of weeks I have noticed my monti slowly dying off.  I could not figure out why but I may have found the culprit.  I found an asternia star in my tank.  Do you think it may be him munching away or could it be something else?  What is the best way to remove them if they are causing trouble?  I have not seen if they are the ones munching away but thought it may be them.  Thoughts on this?  Levels are in order except my alk is a little low.  other than that nitrates, nitrites, ph and salinity are in in range.
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IME Asternia don't really bother anything. They just seem to live on the excess food and detritus in the tank. I have quite a few and my corals look fine. Does the monti need more flow? 
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it has a powerhead pointed towards it.  it has just been recent that it was doing this.  It has been in my tank for six months or so
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I noticed my Zoas closing up alot lately, and after trying a  bunch of stuff I woke up one morning to three asterinas right on them.

I have had Asterinas for a long time with no issues, I say keep an eye on them..
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From what I have read, there are many sub-species or variations on these. Some of them can be mostly benign and only create a plague in the tank...others have been known to eat corals.

I tried removing them, but they reproduce by division and keeping up was impossible.

So, I got the coolest solution...a harlequin shrimp!  Not only is this the most interesting looking invert, he has a voracious appetite for those little buggers. I had at least a thousand of them and after 8 weeks in the tank, not another could be found.

So, I was told that he would now starve...so I did what I was told to do and put a chocolate chip starfish in the tank. This sucker was 3-4" in diameter. I thought, ya, right this 1.5" shrimp is going to eat that!. Well, as soon as I put the star on the glass at the top of the tank, the shrimp smelled him and came out of hiding. He went right to the glass and started shimmying up until he climbed on top of the starfish and then proceeded to pry it off the glass by pushing his big pincers against the glass and poking the feet of the star. Once he had it on the sand, he has been "riding" it ever since. I know people tell me he will eat the whole thing, but I still do not see how that is possible.

Get a Harlequin and your asterina problem (if you see it that way) will be solved.
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I agree with thefu, Harlequins are the best answer to this problem and they are super cool. 

And they will eat the whole chocolate chip, just give it time. From what I've read, they numb the starfish and feed off it for a few weeks to a month and they'll even feed it to help keep it alive while they consume it.

Crazy little buggers.


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I was wondering about that. He was poking the hell out of it at first and then it was easier for him to pry it off the glass. He also was poking it on the top in the center. Now he has it upside down but there is no sign of decay on the starfish. I still do not see how he could possibly eat that whole thing. It has to be 100x his mass, or more. He must have the metabolism of a hummingbird!
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