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    Posted: June 05 2004 at 10:27am
By Hydroids! I read in a book called Dwarf Seahorses by Alisa
Abbott and I was told by a good friend these are evil to dwarf
seahorses. I wasn't really worried about it 'till yesterday when I was
feeding the little guys and noticed there were a lot more than before!
They are talking over my nano! Anyway, doing a little google search,
I found out limpets will eat them, and they come on live rock. So, I
must have them in my big tank, 'cause I've got very few hydroids in
there (I rarely see them, anyway). So, what is a limpet? Any body
know? I'm going to start collecting crawly things from my sump, but
if any body has a hydroid eater I could buy or borrow, I would really
appreciate it!



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I posted a little while ago that I have some keyhole limpets that I am more than willing to part with. Good side -- They eat lots of things that other snails and things wont. Bad side -- They eat lots of things that other snails and things wont.

Basically they are more then willing to take a nibble out of a coral here and there (espically birdnest coral I just found out). But like I said your more then willing to take some.

I also have a more flesy limpet that seems to be proliferating in my tank but I don't see them eat anything but algea. Let me know if your interested in any of my keyhole limpets. I have about 4-5 left.

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Thank you very much, Kevin. Your offer is very generous. I think I
have what I need in our big tank, though. We don't have any in there,
and I use the same system water. So, I think something in there is
eating them. Yesterday, I picked out a bunch of the slug looking
things, that is the only thing I can think of that I haven't seen in the
small tank. Do limpets look like this:


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I also added the closest thing I could find to a nudibranch! A colored
sea slug! And, a lettuce nudibranch! And, a peppermint shrimp!

I removed the calerpa where the majority of offenders were living,
and today I can see very few evil hydroids. The ones I did see, I
sucked out! There are way easy to get off rocks and glass. I'm
hoping to get some hydroid predators to get the ones I can't see!

Good point: Today the Dwarfs are acting a lot more active. Maybe
they feel they can swim around and play more when they're not
afraid of getting stung!!

Thanks for your help, Kevin (and my anonymous email buddy! )

Anybody else know a nematocyst eater?

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are the star looking things in the first picture what you are talking about? Are they snail or slug style creatures or what? newbie out
I will just give my warning that your system will flood, bulbs will burn out, and things will take continuous maintenance... get over it.

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The star looking things are evil hydroids that wait and lurk in the
shadows to sting little seahorses! And, I'm hoping the slug looking
things are the limpets that eat 'em!
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Suzy -

I didnt scrape my glass for almost a month trying to see how big I could get my hydroids, and mine never got that big! What are you feeding those things?!?!

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Turns out they love dwarf seahorse food! Baby Brine shrimp!!
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Suzy,

The "slug like" creatures look like Stomatella Snails to me.

[It] is a desirable herbivore.  When alarmed by a predator it can shed the tip of its meaty foot, like a lizard shedding its tail.

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I have actually seen one shed its foot while being attacked by a wrasse.  It was cool.  The wrasse got a meal and the snail crawled away.  They are amazingly fast (for a snail)

Suzy,  I saw some limpets in a tank at Increadible pets a month ago.  They looked like they were there by accident so I don't know if they are still around.

In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth ... then He let it cycle.

Have you read my dinosaur theory yet?
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Here is another quote from that book

Keyhole Limpet

These pyramid shaped mollusks are excellent herbivores.  They may also feed on the tissues of small polyped stony corals and soft corals.  Harmless to large polyped stony corals.  Some species may feed on the plague hydroid Myrionema.  Several species reproduce in aquariums.

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Something in our big tank must be eating them. Everything is the
same. Do you think the Stomatella Snails eat 'em? I'd go for the
Keyhole limpet, but I was hoping to add sps to this tank.....

I WANT IT ALL!!!
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I would have to possibly disagree on the not harming LPS corals. One of my keyhole limpets have at least once nibbled on my candycane coral. I don't know if they have touched my frogspawn coral though.

If your going with sps, I would probably not go with the keyhole limpets.
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quick stupid.... whats a sps?
I will just give my warning that your system will flood, bulbs will burn out, and things will take continuous maintenance... get over it.

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Suzy, Lot's of people get those Hydroids in newly set up tanks and within a week or two they disappear. I wouldn't worry about them unless they multiply from this point on. That's a cool pic. How did you do it?

Skye,
SPS = Small Polyp Stony coral. Acropora, Montipora, Pocillipora, Hydnophora, etc.
LPS = Large PS coral. Frogspawn, Hammer, Brain, Blastimussa, Bubble, Beefy and Meaty, etc.    

IMO, It would be difficult to see Limpet damage on a Frogspawn since it would occur down on the stalk.

BTW, Who knows the scientific name for Frogspawn, Hammer, Brain and the others,etc. without looking it up?

What was that Don Knotts movie       ?   and Mr. Limpet Didn't he become a fish?

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Euphilia anchora, Euphilia paradivisa, Euphilia frogspawnius, ect...

The Incredible Mr. Limpet, if memory serves...

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Euphilia...Thanks Jon.
And how about Whitish bubblicious?
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And how about Whitish bubblicious?

I used to get that all the time when I was kid.  You chew that one square of gum for 8 hrs nonstop and it not only looses it's flavor, but also its color

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Originally posted by jfinch jfinch wrote:

Euphilia anchora, Euphilia paradivisa, Euphilia frogspawnius, ect...

The Incredible Mr. Limpet, if memory serves...

It's not that I am picky or obsessive, but I think you meant Euphyllia.

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It's not that I am picky or obsessive, but I think you meant Euphyllia.

My spell checker didn't like either of those spellings
He asked "without looking it up" so I followed his rules and I can't spell to save my life.

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Mark, I think they disappear from lack of food, but they love BBS. I
have these guys in with our Dwarf seahorses that eat BBS....It turns
out that the same environment that is wonderful for dwarfs is
excellent for hydroids.

The pic is from my spyglass!

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