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    Posted: April 24 2008 at 8:13pm

I want to buy a HOB skimmer for my new 56g but don't know what is worth spending on.  I saw some from Aquatraders.com for fewer than 50 bucks and some well known brands from other sites well over 200 bucks.  I don't have the money to spend right now so something under a hundred would be ideal.  Is there any skimmer under 100 bucks that worth the try?

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I'm interested in this also. I know I need more skimming and I have no space for an in sump skimmer and I have little money. I have a backpack 2 but it's not enough for my 130 gallons of water. I'm sure that my veg. filter can do the job but it's not grown in at the moment and I dont' think I have enough light to fully use the veg. anyway.
So I was looking at aquatraders. Would it be better to buy a light for my 40 gallon that will better grow algae or buy their 160 skimmer? Is that skimmer any good? If not, can it be modded so it is?
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I.M.E.  , You get what you pay for.  Skimmers are not cheap.  Well what I mean is, Some skimmers are built cheap, Are still not affordable, And putz out on you. Save the $ and buy a decent one.
   I know there are some who still don't skim,take in to consideration  Fish load, bio load and so forth.......
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This is the skimmer I want to try out from aquatraders.  Only 40 bucks.  Should I or shouldn't I? 
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If the power head you add produces good bubbles it will work. But I have no idea if the power head they sell to go with it is any good.
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Have any one try this skimmer before?  I need some input before buying. 
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Duy,

  I have had the CPR, The only prob. is the micro bubbles it puts back in the tank. They have an up grade for it, all it is , is a media bag with A draw string you put over the return hole. I think Eva and Alex are using one on one of their systems. 
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I bought a similar unit from Marine Aquatics a few months ago. It worked well and I had to put a media bag over the return because of micro bubbles. Only problem I had was algae growing in it. Needs to be black.
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looks pretty similar to a sea clown skimmer.
 
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Aqua C Romero is the only way to go if you want a decent skimmer for a decent price. Ive used them on everything from a 29 to a 120. Always worked great. Try e-bay for used.
 
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I decided to buy this one with a fuge that cost 10 more bucks.  Used equipments is hard to come by.  I want to buy high quality equipments too, but at a prices that I cannot afford.  Beside, I'm buying this with a friend to save on shipping.  Not to bad for 50 bucks + shipping cost.
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I know you already purchased, but if anyone else is looking for a fantastic reasonably priced skimmer... I purchased one of these Coralife Super Skimmers off of eBay for only $78 + shipping:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320224405221

It works great. Almost no break-in period and started pulling out nasty stuff almost immediately.



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I haven't make the purchase yet, probably tomorrow.  Thanks for the link, I've check that out tomorrow but for now I need to sleepBig%20smile
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You know if a skimmer is working or not by the bubbles and skimmate. My bak-pak, http://www.cprusa.com/products/bakpak2r.html , produces about a half a cup a day and looks and functions the same as this setup. I think this cheap one could work. If it does not get air in there, than you'll have to figure out how to get air in.  One way to get it to work better is to add a medium air pump and an airstone to get good foam and good skimming.
One advantage of the setup with the fuge is that no tiny air bubbles should make it into the tank.
Many people have the same opinion as Dion, the Aqua C Romero is the only way to go. So if you want a HOB that is proven to work well, go with the Aqua C Romero.
 
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I got the skimmer+fuge today.  I tried it out with a Via Aqua 360 pump (got it in my fish garage) but it didn't create any bubbles and skimmate, definitely the wrong pump for it.  What pump/powerhead should I use to have decent bubbles and skimmate for this cheap product?  Have any one try this cheap product with success?

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My CPR Bak Pak has a small modded rio I think. It came modded to make better foam. Maybe you can get the same one with the mod. Or just talk to your LFS and get a powerhead that has a good venturi air system. I never use the air on my powerheads so I'm not sure which ones work well. I would get some chaeto in the fuge and keep it running with anything that creates water flow until you can get one that produces bubbles. If you have an air pump throw that in with a good air stone. That is a mod that I read people do to their CPRs. I was going to try it on mine as well.

I tried to see how much the whole pump assembly cost from CPR but they are not open yet and I need to go. Their number is (800) 357-2995. I'm sure a local fish store that caries CPR products would be able to help you also.
 
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Bak Pak also can use a Maxi-Jet 1200 pump and then add a bio-ball mod and it works great! 
 
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I agree the Aqua C is the way to go.  I have a urchin (same as the remora just in sump) for my 29 and it works like a dream.  It was a little noisey at first, but now that it's broke in I can barely hear it.
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Originally posted by pickensw pickensw wrote:

Bak Pak also can use a Maxi-Jet 1200 pump and then add a bio-ball mod and it works great! 
 
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Do you have a link for the mod?? Thanks
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Are you just putting the bio balls in the chamber of the skimmer??

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