acro rtn
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Topic: acro rtn
Posted By: DPOULSEN
Subject: acro rtn
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 12:59am
| have any of you ever had your acros rtn from the tips?. i am puzzeled why mind are doing that. all param and temp are where it suppoese to be. have any thought on this?. |
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Posted By: sanddune600
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 1:12am
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how close are you putting them to the top i could be that you are hitting them with to much light to fast i am new at this too but i set mine at the bottom and slowly move them to the top to let them get used to my lights what light do you have
------------- Andy Jorgensen My number is four three 5 7 six four 8 0 three four |
Posted By: pa_reptileman_4
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 2:24am
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i think that the whole light acclimation thing is bs, i took a brain that was under 80 pc for months and put it right at the top of my 90 gal within inches from 2x250 mh, and it thrived 2 weeks later i put in about midway in the tank and it doesnt like it there as much.
but to answer you question i have never had anything rtn on me....knock on wood. ------------- pitiful guppy tank. shane |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 9:51am
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how old are your bulbs. also is it getting hot up at the top of the water ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 2:41pm
Unfortunately it isn't. Ive lost several corals from putting them up to high to begin with  . Acclimation is important in all aspects.------------- http://www.customaquariumfurniture.com" rel="nofollow - Bad "censored" Cabinets Best quality in the valley! He is one sexy bald guy, even with out a finger!(MAC) |
pa_reptileman_4 wrote:Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 4:34pm
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ditto on that dion ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: dustponds10
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 5:52pm
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ditto Dion, I also have that happening and I have had the corals for 2 months and I started them out on the bottom and now they are about 1/2 way up my rock and it was doing great. Everything is great I think. I have done some tests on everything and it all pans out great. Will they start to die if your alk drops low? I did have to corret my alk the other day. It was around 7 or 8 but all the other corals were doing awsome. Could this be the cause? Sorry to hijack but I thought you might have something simular ------------- 120 ASM G-3 T-5 lighting 130 frag system T-5 lighting asm G-1x |
Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 5:55pm
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Alk or Calc that is way out can cause damage to your corals. (sometimes fish as well) To be honest I don't test much. Ive gotten used to how things should look and what is the usual cause. I start there and then test if that doesn't solve the issue. ------------- http://www.customaquariumfurniture.com" rel="nofollow - Bad "censored" Cabinets Best quality in the valley! He is one sexy bald guy, even with out a finger!(MAC) |
Posted By: DPOULSEN
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 6:28pm
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the light bulbs are fairly new (6 month). i have a mess cover over the top to protect the wrasses from jumping out. so too much light, i doubt that would be. the corals have been in the tank and growing nicely. two weeks ago some of the corals tips begining to rtn, at that time i also had red slime broke out. i didn't do much about it, and the tank didn't look any better. so i went to aquatica and got red slime removal, took care of that and did a 20% water change. did the red slime had to do with the rtn?. i have not seen more rtn since the water change. but the acro that had rtn look sad. what should i do with the dead tips?. break it of or leave it. please give addvise. thank you |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 6:30pm
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you said you had to correct your alk... did you use a buffer? sps doesnt like quick change. that couldve been the cause ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: DPOULSEN
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 7:27pm
| cl2ysta1, i am running a calium reactor, alk stay constant at 9.5 and calcium at 420. i didn't mess with either one. |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 8:22pm
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oh that was dust ponds. I had asked about the bulbs b/c i had some crappy bulbs on my 72 bowfront, and all a sudden my sps had started dieing from the tips. seems the bulbs had used up their life in about 7 months. after replacing things started coming back... just a thought. also have you tested your calcium and alk? i also runa calc reactor, but the demands of my tank seem to change every once in a while and i will have to supplement one or the other. ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 8:23pm
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another thing... how are your mag levels? ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: DPOULSEN
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 8:39pm
| i just tested alk and cal yesterday, both are very good. mag is a little low i tested a month ago it was at 1300 |
Posted By: Crazy Tarzan
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 9:00pm
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How many corals are starting to rtn dave? Is it just one, or is it various? I had a really nice millepora coral that did fine for several days in the tank after acclimation in the fuge, and then just randomly started to rtn, and was gone in two days. Then I have other corals that all but died before the mille did, and are now colored back up and growing. go figure. ------------- Was that in there yesterday? Casper--WY windier than ? Down to a 20, soon to double or nothing |
Posted By: DPOULSEN
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 10:02pm
| nate, it is various |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 10:14pm
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i'm stumped ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: DPOULSEN
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 11:36pm
| cl2ysta1, when you come up north, bring me the birdsnest that i requested and you can see for yourself what's going on. btw, when are you coming? |
Posted By: dew2loud1
Date Posted: May 05 2008 at 1:17am
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I've read several things where red slime remover negatively affected SPS big time "after treatment" but you said its improved since then? Why the cyano outbreak? Did the temp flux heavy (heater went out), or have you had an influx of nutrients, fish die etc... Generally something goes out of whack for cyano to spread and that may be the cause of the bleaching. Have you changed carbon recently or started running it? Generally its going to be one of a couple things, system flux temp/nitrates etc, too much light (new bulbs, or clearer water from running carbon), I'm guessing there are no parasites or nipping fish? I'd start from there, sometimes SPS is just rather finicky...... |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 05 2008 at 7:52am
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i'll be up the 13th. I can either be there earlier in the morning or after my meeting which would be closer to five ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: DPOULSEN
Date Posted: May 05 2008 at 7:44pm
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dew2loud1, you hit some of the very important issue i did not mention earlier. 1. i did took out the carbon. 2. i added a chiller, temp drop and steady around 78 deg from 82 deg.
i don't know if the corals improve, but it did stop from dying. thank you for your commment.
cl2ysta1, tuesday the 13th would be great. i prefer in the morning on your way up. i am only two min off from the i-15 in mona. let me know how early.
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Posted By: DPOULSEN
Date Posted: May 05 2008 at 11:51pm
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Tuesday the 13th would be great, even better if you could stop by in the mornnig. i am 2 min off from i-15 in mona. i don't have access to email at home so please give me a call before you stop by. 801-318-0767 |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: May 07 2008 at 4:52pm
You know me and I know you. I believe I know how you could solve the problem, but you aren't going to like it. You have problems with SPS and yet you are adding more. That's not good. Without even seeing your present tank I'm guessing that you probably have too many coral in a confined space. This, combined with a lack of attention which allowed Cyano to flourish and the use of a chemical to control it (not the right choice IMO) could easily be the reason for your difficulty with a type of coral that is already oversensitive to slight changes in conditions. (That's why I don't like SPS - too oversensitive
 )Rather than adding more coral when some of the same type of coral (SPS) are having problems, why not investigate the problem, correct it, restore and maintain what you've got. This is just my semi-educated guess, my 2 cents worth of advice. If Crystal and Kyle see your tank, they can confirm or refute my guess.  ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member 
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Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 13 2008 at 10:57pm
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Ok i just got done testing your water
salinity is 1.022. i keep mine at .23.
KH is 7.4... on the low end
Calcium is.... 400.. between these two alone these are not in balance
Mag is... 1290. should be more like 1300-1500 only slightly on teh low end.
phospates are 0 which is good
Nitrates are 0 which is also good
all of the tests were done with salifert test kits
so the only conclusion i can come to since none of these are in death range.. is that
a: you either have a pest eating them
b: you chemically burned them... which is quite possible since the ones that are dying seem to be in the flow of returns.
c: your alk shot up at some point and you didnt realize *burning tips are a sign of high alk*
or...
d: its a mystery we will never find out.
------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: DPOULSEN
Date Posted: May 13 2008 at 11:57pm
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cl2ysta1. thank you for stopping by and thank you for testing the water. i choose the answere d.
mark, you want to stop by and give it a try?
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Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 14 2008 at 8:43am
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no problem. it was nice meeting you too!!! i'll have to stop by again ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: May 14 2008 at 11:19am
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I trust Crystals opinion, but if I were to try to read between the lines, I might guess that I either need to stop by to a) see some mystery that we will never find out or b) try to give you another opinion.
Which do you choose? a or b?
 Either way, since I have no plans to be up your way in the near future, I wonder if you could post pics of the tank and closeups of the coral. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 14 2008 at 11:50am
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mark there were two main sections of coral that were dying. All of different species, but nonetheless sps. one was right in the flow of a return on the left hand side of the tank, and the other was a small patch on the right side of the tank. Which was in the flow of a powerhead, but i dont remember a return. THey seemed like they were NOT RTning.. however the tips had just died. It also seemed that they were not continuing to die more, but were recovering from.. something. I assume if the dying contines to spread out from these circles it very well could be a pest of somesort... he had a lot of bali aquacultured colonies, and in my experience with them they are more prone to having hitch hiking pests. He informed me he lugols everything before it goes in the tank, but you cannot tell if there is a pest on it unless you
a: quarantine it before adding to the display,
b: actually blow it with a blast of water while in a lugols dip. the lugols will stun the fw etc, but they will not let go. you need to woosh them off .
it is quite a mystery at this point as none of his parameters were in death range. ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |