Starting again- Corey's new tank blog
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Topic: Starting again- Corey's new tank blog
Posted By: Corey Price
Subject: Starting again- Corey's new tank blog
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 1:41am
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Since I'm kinda bored, I thought I would post some pics about my new tank. Although this tank will be empty until late fall, I'm going to start a thread so that I can maintain interest.
The tank arrived mid-January, custom ordered by Mark Peterson from Lee-mar. It measures 72" long by 30" wide by 24" deep, and is made with float glass, ground edges, and black silicone. Notice that there is no center brace- by design. I love the euro-braced, no center brace design. I spent many hours pouring over designs I liked and then getting prices through Mark for the different tank schemes. I would have preferred an external overflow with eurobracing, but Lee-mar refused to notch the back glass for this. AGE out of Texas wanted four times as much money to build the tank I wanted with external overflows. 
Here is a picture of a bunch of us trying to get it through the downstairs window. Moving a 400 lb tank through a window at an angle wasn't easy, but no one was hurt. 
Another picture of the crew who so graciously helped. 
The tank arrived without overflows. Shane Silcox laser-cut these acrylic pieces for my new overflows. 
I will be using a closed loop with a three-way ball valve. This is a Plast-o-Matic 1-1/2" three-way ball valve, with actuator. 
The closed loop will be run by a Velocity T4. 
The T4 will power two penductors on each side of the tank. |
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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 7:07am
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Very nice. I'm glad you started this thread. I can't believe 4 of you brought in this 400 pound tank through a window! Mike -------------  |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 7:30am
| Mike, there were six of us, counting my brother and neighbor (not seen in the pic) |
Posted By: Jeff Morrill
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 9:04am
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Hey Corey, P.M. me the price of that pretty little thing!!! Cant wait to see it up and running!! ------------- WHAT KINDA GUM????... Give em 2 sticks. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 1:37pm
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The tank is 225 gallons and will be an in-wall design. I might leave 8 to 10" of the side viewable, kinda like a glass box that protrudes from the wall. I have three holes on each side of the tank that were drilled by Lee-mar, and two holes in the back glass up high for the removable overflow boxes. More on the overflow boxes to come.
Here's a current list of equipment that I have currently for use on this new tank setup:
1. Sequence Snapper return pump (quiet, less than 110 watts, efficient). I was considering purchasing a Red Dragon pump, but the cost could not be justified when I considered the initial cost and three years of the difference in electricity used between a Snapper and the Red Dragon. Someone needs to tell Mr. Klaus to lower his astronomical prices.
2. Multiple bulkheads for the closed loop and overflow box. I was able to find 3/4" bulkheads with threaded tank side, slip outside- what a chore. The threaded tank side works well with my penductor and gyre flow ideas- more on this to come.
3. Two 1-1/4" PVC Sch. 40 wyes. True PVC wyes are hard to find. Thanks to Ryan at AD, I was able to get these no problem for a reasonable price (shameless plug for AD, this does not represent the club presidency in any way). Also, a drawer-full of PVC parts, bushings, flexible PVC, etc. Hope I can re-coup my expenses when I changed my last tank plumbing five times.
4. Aquamedic 250w DE metal halide pendants and brand new Phoenix bulbs. Here's where I might ruffle some feathers- I will probably sell this setup to finance an all-T5 HO/VHO retrofit setup, possibly eight 60" 80w bulbs or sixteen 36" bulbs and Sunlight Supply Tek II reflectors. I may hold out for the rumored new TEK light coming soon, but I like the retro kit bulb watertight end sockets more than the present TEK light sockets. Again, more to come.
5. Four-bulb PFO 4' VHO with two actinic bulbs. I will definitely sell this to finance the T5 setup. I can't really put this to good use since the ballasts will not drive 6' T12 VHO lights.
6. 40 gallon breeder tank. I will be using this for a refugium, plumbed into the system instead of having a dedicated portion of the sump as part of the refugium.
7. 20 gallon long tank. The 20 long will be a coral and critter quarrantine. I am not interested in having a tank with the possibility of red bugs, AEFW, sea spiders, asperigopsis algae, etc. being introduced by my own negligence.
8. DIY Calcium Reactor. I may build a new one and sell this one. They work great- see my posts in the DIY forum. Now if I can just get Shane Silcox to cut some flanges...
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Posted By: SSpargur
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 1:39pm
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That's going to be an awesome set up. I bet that was a heck of a time getting it in.
May I ask how much the tank set you back? ------------- Sean Spargur West Valley, UT |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 1:41pm
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Here's a picture of the joints for the Lee-mar tank. I think they do great work.
 I realize that these joints might not be important for an in-wall tank, but I wanted some custom features, holes, etc. and this was the cheapest tank for what I wanted.
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 1:49pm
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Sean, Tyler, and Jeff,
I PM'ed you. If anyone else wants to know the price of this tank, PM Mark Peterson. He can get you this tank or whatever tank you wish. I thought the design process I went through with Mark and Lee-mar to be fun and a chore at the same time, but Mark was always helpful and creative.
The hard part of this thread is that we may move. If we do, then the tank goes back out the window and on to the next house, possibly somewhere in Farmington, Centerville, Kaysville, or Fruit Heights. Who knows. This is why I don't intend on setting it up until this fall.
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 7:21pm
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Kim, You asked why I wanted a 1-1/2" ball valve for the penductor setup if there's only "600" gph through the penductors. I will be moving around 16 gpm, or 960 gph through two 0.375" orifice penductors. Typical three-way ball valves are restrictive and not really like a typical ball valve. At this flow, the Cv factor for the ball valve is not a significant reduction in flow. If I were to go smaller, then the restrictive nature of the three-way ball valve starts to have an effect. Since I bought the valve from a friend with a used actuator, I was able to get the same deal on a 1-1/2" and a 1" valve, so I chose the larger valve with less restriction.
You asked how I was going to do a gyre effect with penductors- I'll explain my ideas in upcoming posts. I spent hours talking to fellow reef enthusiasts about this.
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 8:47am
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So I changed the name of this thread to a blog. It seems to have sparked very little interest, but it's still fun for me. The board seems to be full of all kinds of information, threads, drama, etc. I've heard many seasoned aquarium veterans say that it's all been done before. Well, I still think it's fun to talk about. Maybe a few pics can spark some interest.
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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 9:00am
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I bet there are quite a few lurkers just not a lot of comments yet.
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 9:23am
So here's the gyre effect idea:
A gyre is defined as a vortex in the ocean, but in the SW world, it's basically the effect of using a small amount of pump power to get the water going in a circle, much like what happens when you put a high flow garden hose in a bucket at an angle and close to the side. The water in the bucket starts swirling faster and faster until you have a mini vortex. I thought that a picture might be better for communicating this for my tank. Basically this is showing one side drilled- in reality, both sides are drilled the exact same way. The center hole is the pump inlet, and the two upper holes will have the penductors, with four total. The inlet will be connected to the pump, and I figure that with two 1-1/2" inlets, I shouldn't have to worry about getting one clogged since there will only be about 500 gph being sucked through each of them. Imagine having shelf-style rock supported by rock doweled together with acrylic rods- kinda like a table. The tables would vary in height, with some channels between them and there may be several heights. The shelves would allow the current to gain momentum horizontally through them. The opposing penductor outlets are up high in an attempt to do the same thing as the bucket analogy. The three-way ball valve allows the system to switch directions every five to ten minutes, after a gyre has formed in one direction. |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 9:31am
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are you doing bare bottom in this tank?> ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: fj40fax
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 4:34pm
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Lurking.
------------- Fax 318-3632 90g 2x250W 14kK MH Sump, Fuge, G3, UV, O3, ACIII Pleasant Grove, UT Across State Street from the Purple Turtle Adjustments and Massages for Frags! |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 5:55pm
| I may or may not do a bare-bottom. In any case, I'll continue to have a sand bed somewhere in the system. I want to see how the closed loop gyre works before and after sand. |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 6:12pm
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yeah i was going to say you are going to have a hard time keeping sand down. I've seen people do the starboard and basically glue sand to it. My bb tank is running awesome with a remote DSB and fuge. I havent seen nitrates yet. I however do siphon deutritis once every other week. ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 6:57pm
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I am considering a remote deep sand bed, but I'm not sure where or how big. I'm not sure that I want to go with the starboard look yet.
I hope that I have enough flow that detritus won't settle at all. |
Posted By: fj40fax
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 8:26pm
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I have a glued down sand bed and I have detritus everywhere but directly underneath the 2 Koralia 3's pointed directly at the bottom. I agree vacuuming it up every once in awhile really helps. I just start a siphon and run it down to the sump with a filter sock on it, works great! I spent a few hours on the tank the other day and sucked out about 2 lbs (dry weight) of crap off the bottom (most of it was a calcareous algae).
------------- Fax 318-3632 90g 2x250W 14kK MH Sump, Fuge, G3, UV, O3, ACIII Pleasant Grove, UT Across State Street from the Purple Turtle Adjustments and Massages for Frags! |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 8:37pm
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That is a lot of detritus! Mike ------------- |
Posted By: big fish
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 8:40pm
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hey corey I got my eye on a leemar as well can you pm a price
------------- never under any circumstance take a sleeping pill and a laxative at the same time |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 8:56pm
I can PM you what I paid, but I bet it's different. It would be best to go to the source- PM Mark Peterson for a better idea. |
big fish wrote:Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 10:20pm
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Corey, PM me the info too. I'd like to know what ballpark it is in.
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 10:27pm
If you get your water movement positioned right it should collect in one spot. Mine collects in the back middle. Very easy to siphon. The idea with a bare bottom is that you have so much flow it never settles. I however like and have lps and cannot do that much flow ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 10:28pm
And another piece of equipment for my tank:
Kinda fun to see one broken down. I've been using this one for several months on the 40g tank. I recently tore it down, inspected the powerhead, and put it into storage. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 10:35pm
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So I hear that the lack of detritus settling is the point of bare-bottom tanks. I like it, but I want a sand bed somewhere in the system. I think a good sand bed is redundancy in the biological filtration. We'll see if I have enough flow to justify the lack of sand in the main tank. |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 10:50pm
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you are correct. I however would not run the system completely devoid of sand. Barebottoms IME (i have both) are much easier to keep nitrates at a good level. Amazingly enough i've never had readable nitrates in this tank with 60 plus fish, but always have 10 or less in my other two tanks with sand. I attribute this to being able to keep the deuitritis out. My large system is probably a total of about... 450 gallons or so. I only have a 29 gallon refugium with a remote dsb. This has been doign wonders. Along of course with religious weekly water changes and a good skimmer :) which i have on my "sanded" tanks also, but still have nitrates in those. ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 1:39pm
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We'll see about the bare-bottom thing. I would rather see a nice sand bed, actually.
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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 6:16pm
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I prefer the look of a sand bet too.
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: fj40fax
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 8:22pm
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I have LPS's too so I cannot do that much flow either. All mine collects along the front glass and is also easy to siphon. I run a 6" DSB in the sump/fuge
------------- Fax 318-3632 90g 2x250W 14kK MH Sump, Fuge, G3, UV, O3, ACIII Pleasant Grove, UT Across State Street from the Purple Turtle Adjustments and Massages for Frags! |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 11:34pm
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I'm planning on an SPS dominated tank, so no LPS unless they can stand the flow.
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 28 2008 at 12:57am
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So here's what I am thinking of using for the skimmer.
I like the design, and the ability to tear the entire skimmer down is just what I really want. http://www.atbskimmers.com/product.php?id=56 - ATB Skimmer |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: May 28 2008 at 7:08am
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Now that is a SKIMMER!
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 28 2008 at 9:04am
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weird lookin shape. those are the bubble king knock offs right? they are supposedly really good. ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 28 2008 at 1:10pm
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It is different from the normal cylindrical skimmers. I like it because a lot of junk ends up along the inside of cylindrical skimmers just at the neck-down portion. I also like that it's half the price of the over-priced Bubble King skimmers, but performs really well according to most people who have one and are commenting on them on RC. Again, the ability to tear the skimmer apart is one of the biggest selling points for me.
I've thought about building my own skimmer, but this one is hands down a better design than anything I could come up with. I like Beckett skimmers, but they are power-hungry. This skimmer pays for itself in three years if you look at an equivalent Beckett and do a cost/benefit analysis, considering current electricity rates.
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: May 28 2008 at 6:17pm
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I saw this today and I think it's perfect for my new tank. Do you think it will be too much?  Nice Asahi valves, 6" and 8" Sch 80 plumbing, etc...
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Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: May 28 2008 at 7:20pm
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nope,. looks perfect ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: May 28 2008 at 8:08pm
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Looks perfect to me if you have the room!
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: June 02 2008 at 12:20am
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That pump was in the Macy's/Cottonwood Mall mechanical room. I have to design structure to go over the roof of that room.
I will be gluing up the overflows shortly. If I don't like them, I'll build different ones. So I was thinking of getting a controller to time the three-way valve instead of the timer I bought when I purchased the valve. The timer I bought isn't what I really want. There are three power feed wires to the actuator- one cold, two hot that power the actuator motor in opposite directions. There is a small limiting switch that keeps the valve from going past the open mark, and so if the actuator is powered for a minute, it's okay. It actually takes 5 seconds for the valve to switch from one side to the other. So, the controller would power one outlet on a DC8 to go one way for a minute, and then 5 to 20 minutes later, it powers another outlet to switch the direction. |
Posted By: dew2loud1
Date Posted: June 02 2008 at 6:03am
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THe ATB conicals are great, they run off the laguna modified pump (ie red dragon clone), the conical shape takes the back pressure off the pump and allows much more air and a much gentler foam head = more fish poo removed
Just keep in mind in your sump layout that the ATB's are meant to run in very shallow water, ie 8-10 inches from what I've heard, which isn't too bad to maintain if you prop it up some.
There is also the KZ revolution line that is running on a cone format
Good luck, I like your choice in equipment the vortecs are pretty sweet pumps!
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Posted By: john hill
Date Posted: June 03 2008 at 9:06pm
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taging along so far these is a great build keep it up ------------- out with the large and in with the nano |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 5:12pm
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So how big of a sump should I have? I'm considering a 75 gallon tank, with baffles & stuff. The refugium will be separate. Should I go acrylic? Should I stick with glass? Boy, acrylic is sure expensive, and a pre-made standard glass tank would be fine in my mind, but I'ld like to have a sump with less depth and more width and length.
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 5:57pm
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Should I keep the 40g breeder tank I have and use it for a refugium, or get a 75g tank for a refugium? I think a 75g refugium would be nice.
I may even consider drilling the 40g breeder for the return pump and converting it to a sump. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 6:04pm
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So I went to build the overflow boxes today, but learned that the needle bottle I had is nowhere to be found. Anyone have a spare needle applicator thing for weld-on?
I hope our house sells. Waiting for the house to sell is like watching paint dry right now. We may have to lower our price considerably. |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 6:27pm
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I think a 75 gallon would make a great sump. I even bought one a couple years ago to use as a sump and it is still sitting empty in the basement waiting for me to set up a big tank again.
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: August 14 2008 at 10:09pm
| So I just found Professional Plastics in Kaysville- 695 N 900 W. Great guys in there who quoted me some great prices on 3/8" and 1/2" clear cell cast acrylic, and offered to cut it no charge. I figure that the sump will cost around $250 for an acrylic custom sump, if I build it myself. |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 7:48am
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How big would you build?
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 7:58am
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48"x24"x16". The 16" dimension would be the height, allowing easy maintenance. I would need to get me a good router and a good used tablesaw, hopefully with a Beismeyer fence. I was hoping to justify the purchase of a tablesaw and router as part of a remodel or finishing of our basement, and use them to build a sump as a bonus. It's a good excuse for getting more tools- you can never have enough tools, right? I see there's a couple used 75g tanks on the market for sale, and I might buy one.
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 8:01am
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My last acrylic sump, although good for what I used it for, was 22" high. I like a shallower and wider sump than what I had, and that was one of the main reasons for selling it. Getting a 75g tank may not be any different, but I figure I could use it for a refugium if I don't use it for a sump.
I'm still considering geothermal cooling. I have a couple ideas for that.
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Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 9:25am
Corey - is it possible you're enjoying the building of the tank more than the tank itself?  I think this part of the process is where you thrive!
I can't wait to see the finished product. (and I'm enjoying your build thread - keep it up)
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Posted By: dew2loud1
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 12:54pm
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I've been looking into geothermal cooling as well as a heat exchanger on our water heater for heating with about 2000 gallons when we're done its going to be way too expensive to heat with regular heaters. If you do a large sump you most likely wont need any additional cooling other than fans IMO, is your sump going under the main tank? If not I'd go as big as you possibly could, maybe even a 150 gallon rubbermaid or something along those lines... I love the build process as well, just wish I had a much bigger budget  .I'd recommend the biggest sump you can possibly get, we had a 90 gallon acrylic sump under our cube and loved it, we are now using the sump that came with the big tank and its great, having a 200 gallon sump is nice, but I'm not too impressed with the overall sump design because it appears that it only leaves about 30 gallons in a power outage and with four tanks plumbed in it is dangerously close to overflowing in a power outage. The skimmer chamber is way too tall. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 1:44pm
I might resemble that comment. Actually, I'm loving the tank I have at work, and setting it up was a PITA project, even though I didn't pay for it.
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 1:48pm
I had a 80 gallon sump and refugium on my last tank, and I still should have used a chiller. I think I will need some type of chiller, but that's still debatable.
I agree about the biggest sump you can get. I'll be doubling the size of my last sump since this one won't have a refugium built in. The refugium will be separate.
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 1:59pm
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http://www.professionalplastics.com/professionalplastics/content/BuildingAnAquarium2.doc - http://www.professionalplastics.com/professionalplastics/content/BuildingAnAquarium2.doc
Kinda fun information.
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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 3:58pm
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I say build it. That is a great price.
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 10:20pm
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So I am still going to build the removeable overflows, but what about a linear pipe overflow as seen in this RC thread?
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1429683&perpage=25&pagenumber=1 |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 10:25pm
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http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1429683&perpage=25&pagenumber=1 - http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1429683&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 10:27pm
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That was a pretty interesting solution.
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: September 08 2008 at 10:31pm
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I found a place online that sells black PVC in just the right size and configuration. I think for the $10 that I'm going to try both ways.
Anyone know of somebody who's looking for a house? We would like to sell ours soon. I'm in a temporary state of "tank limbo" and I'm not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel yet. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: October 05 2008 at 11:50pm
There's a 90% chance we will stay in our present house, so this thread will be fun soon. I need to start buying some tools for the basement.
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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 8:48am
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Any update Corey?
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 1:04pm
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Our house is under contract to be sold, so no updates- my tank project will have to wait until the next house. |
Posted By: TNaisbitt
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 10:46pm
Congrats on the house sale! Sorry you have to boost the tank back out the window again. I could take it off your hands for you if you don't want to deal with it.  Call me when you move and I can give you a hand moving it out.------------- "Water which is too pure has no fish." 90 Gal Reef, 12Gal Nano Reef West Jordan, UT |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 11:59pm
| Thanks, Travis. We'll see what happens- yeah, I'm not looking forward to moving it back up through the window. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: October 11 2008 at 12:03am
| I'll take you up on the offer to help move it. |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: October 11 2008 at 8:40am
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That's great news Corey. I hope you find a place to buy soon.
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 8:37pm
| We found a house and will put it under contract soon. Farmington, here we come! My beautiful wife asked where the tank would go, and I don't have a good answer yet. We weren't looking for a house that fit the tank. |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 10:50pm
Really?!
Mike
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 11:29pm
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Yeah. I'm not sure where to put the tank in this house.
So I need help on moving the tank out the window and to my new place. Any more volunteers? |
Posted By: bannshy
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 8:35am
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if I am available I will be there, just let me know where and when.
Jeremy
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Posted By: TNaisbitt
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 9:36am
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I can come too. Just let me know the day and time.
------------- "Water which is too pure has no fish." 90 Gal Reef, 12Gal Nano Reef West Jordan, UT |
Posted By: Reef Addict
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 11:22am
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I can throw a muscle or two into the effort.
------------- 100 Gallon Tru VU Acrylic 2 x 175W 14,000K Metal Halides 2 x 54W T5HO 48" Actinics (801) 884-2137 |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 1:03pm
| November 13th is what I have planned currently. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 5:51pm
| I can help also if you need an extra hand or two. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 7:48pm
| Thanks, guys. I appreciate it. Look for reminders and PM's for directions. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: October 29 2008 at 6:02pm
Okay, move that date up at least a week. We may end up moving the tank on Saturday, November 1st. The other house fell through, so we're looking for another house. In the meantime, we'll be moving in with my Mother temporarily. I hate moving twice. 
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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: October 29 2008 at 6:40pm
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Mike ------------- |
I'm sorry the other one fell through. I hope you guys like the next one just as much.Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: November 01 2008 at 8:36pm
| So we're looking at another house seriously, and the move date is probably going to be on the 8th of November (next Saturday). We'll still be moving twice- no real hope of only moving once. Well, we should find a storage shed. |
Posted By: Jeff Morrill
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 11:24am
------------- WHAT KINDA GUM????... Give em 2 sticks. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 1:47pm
| Update again- we are building a home in northwest farmington, near the border of Farmington and Kaysville and Shepard Lane. My new tank could go upstairs, but I doubt it. I have a great place for it in the basement of the new house. For now, it sits in a storage shed with almost everything else I own. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 1:49pm
| Oh, and I'll start a new thread when I am ready to put in the tank. I'd like to frame it in as soon as we move in so that we can get it off the ground, in the wall, and out of the way. |
Posted By: chk4tix
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 7:24pm
Congrats, you will only a few miles from my new house in Kaysville. So I will ahve to drop in to help and check out that tank...  Luckily for me, the condo temporary living crap ( camping chairs, air matresses, paper plates, ect, ect.) will all come to an end in less then 2 weeks. I hope your new house is completed a head of schedule so you dont have to suffer to long. ------------- Original Crappy Reef Club Member #2 |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 8:58pm
So I have a place picked out for the new tank location.
Here's what my basement will look like, all but the ceiling will be higher in my house. On the left hand side of the screen, there's a door at the back wall. The door will not be there in my house, but this is where the tank will be. The wall at the back of the sofa will be extended to the left and the tank will be in the wall. |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 9:02pm
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Has it got anything to do with the picture? I thought you were having a home built. Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 9:03pm
| See my edit. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 9:11pm
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The geothermal chiller approach will be easy in our new house since I'll be putting in the yard as soon as possible. I'll run load out and load in PVC lines up next to the HVAC ducts, over to the foundation wall, drop down and will go thru the wall. The lines will be about 30" down in the ground, and be HDPE lines, about 100' of it, looped at the end. The lines will be filled with water, circulated by an Eheim pump. The pump will turn on when cooling is needed. Heat exchange will be accomplished with a titanium coil in a custom housing, built right into the sump return plumbing. This way, there won't be any tank water circulated in the geothermal chiller loop, reducing the risk of stagnant water issues.
Since the ground stays at 55 degrees, the chiller will use the ground as a giant heat sync. I have been totally inspired by my brother's new house in Willard, where he is using a complete geothermal heating/cooling approach. |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 9:53pm
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It sounds great! Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Cameron
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 10:58pm
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Posted By: Bluespotjawfish
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 8:04am
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So high tech! ------------- Home of the baby Picasso! |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 4:02pm
Definitely!
Great ideas and, I'm sure, great implementation.
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 7:20pm
Thanks, guys. It's not really high-tech. I'm trying to simplify things. |
Posted By: BrandonA
Date Posted: December 12 2008 at 5:17am
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I wish i understood half of the things you said you are doing. I really do hope that when my day comes to start a build thread I know a lot more then I do now. Cause i'm going to need it. lol |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: January 23 2009 at 7:23am
Update: We're getting closer.
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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: January 23 2009 at 9:02am
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Thanks for the update. Now you need to buy Dave's 350 to build in the wall!
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: February 20 2009 at 1:22pm
A few updates. I'm going to start finishing the basement this summer, and one of the first things that I'll do is get the tank stand and wall framed out so that we can get the tank off the floor. |
Posted By: Turbostud653
Date Posted: February 20 2009 at 2:24pm
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Looking good so far! ------------- Here is what a customer said while on hold Oh my gosh! Did you open the door? I told you not to open the door. Dre is in here completely naked and he's got freak'n Macaroni and Cheese in his hands. |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: February 20 2009 at 5:14pm
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It looks like the perfect spot.
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: February 20 2009 at 9:45pm
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My wife has given me the green light to experiment with the new tank using different pumps on my closed loop. I also plan to get some korallias or another Vortech to mess with as well. I'll be running the geothermal loop using a 1/2 hp titanium heat exchanger from Aqualogic. It's basically the coil and housing from their Deltastar chillers.
The basement fish room is working out SOOO beautifully. Now if the economy doesn't drop out of sight, maybe I'll get fish in before the end of the year. |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: February 20 2009 at 10:33pm
Now that would be great.
Mike ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 20 2009 at 11:05pm
| Its looking good to me so far. |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 10:25pm
Getting closer. |