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Topic: X10 question
Posted By: ssilcox
Subject: X10 question
Date Posted: May 31 2004 at 10:42pm

I have had my aquacontroller for a while now but have left my lights on timers, and I decided tonight that it was time to try setting everything up automatic through the aquacontroller.

Well here is the deal. My VHO's will stick on. They get sent the "off" command, turn off, then seconds later "click" back on. I send the "off" command manually from the aquacontroller,  they click off, then seconds later click back on by themselves. The aquacontroller isnt sending the "on" command, at least the indicator light on the interface module doesnt indicate that it is. I have tried difference house codes, difference numbers, difference appliance modules, all with the same effect.  The only thing that I can come up with is that I am using 2 prong appliance modules -- do they need three prong appliance modules to work properly? If so - does anyone have a three prong I could borrow to test that theory so that I dont wast money upgrading to three prong for nothing?

Thanks for the help -

Shane




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Posted By: Meeshi_ma
Date Posted: May 31 2004 at 11:31pm

I've got some 3 prong still if you want to try that.  What are your mornings like this week? 

Brian



Posted By: ssilcox
Date Posted: June 01 2004 at 8:26am

Brian! Havent talked or heard from you in a while! How is everything going?

Sure I would love to borrow one if you have a 3 prong. I am open whenever you can make it up here - just give me a time and a day.

Thanks!



Posted By: Marcus
Date Posted: June 01 2004 at 8:49am
Do you have the X-10s plugged into a power strip?  Some power strips have breakers built into them and will confuse the x-10s.  The breaker will not reset but piss you off.  The only way to tell is to plug it into the wall and try it.  If that still isn't the issue you may want to try another X-10 or another interface.  I have an extra one that I am not using at this time.  You are welcome to try it.  Hope this helps.


Posted By: rstruhs
Date Posted: June 01 2004 at 6:34pm

Shane,

Sorry it took so long to answer.  I have seen this problem before.  Most likely the solenoid or whatever you are using to turn the lights on/off has a 5 volt "threshhold", you need a solenoid that has a higher "threshhold".  The threshhold voltage is what is turning your lights back on.  If you got your aquacontroller from MSM, talk to Randy and he'll get you set up correctly.  If not, talk to Randy anyway!

The technical answer is way to involved for me to write it out.  I am not too good at explaining in writing what is happening.  And for a non-electrical person, Randy Olsen does a terrific job of explaining it.  And he knows from experience what is happening to you and why.

Good luck!



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Rodney, Sandra, Jeffery, and Laura Struhs
South Jordan, Utah 98th South & 40th West.
(801) 282-2744

75 gallon reef
55 gallon reef
55 gallon FOWLR
20 gallon FOWLR


Posted By: ssilcox
Date Posted: June 01 2004 at 10:09pm
Sweet - I'll give Randy a call. I have tried a new power line interface, tried a totally seperate circuit, and they all still do the same thing.  Hopefully Randy will have the answer. Thanks Rodney!


Posted By: ssilcox
Date Posted: June 01 2004 at 10:40pm

Ok I fixed it. There is something called "Local control", where the X10 module has built in circuitry to turn itself on when it detects that the unit that it is controlling has been manually turned on. Well I guess electronic ballasts has some voltage that is running constantly on the line, and so the x10 module thinks that it was manually turned on. Anyway, you can take the module apart and snip a trace on the circuit board, and voila! It works. If anyone else has this problem I can quickly show them how to fix it.

Thanks for everyones help!



Posted By: Marcus
Date Posted: June 01 2004 at 11:11pm
That's great info!  I'll have to keep that in mind.


Posted By: Meeshi_ma
Date Posted: June 02 2004 at 2:56am

So you no longer need the 3 prong ones?  I'll go ahead and leave them home then.  Let me know if you need anything else.

Brian




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