I WAS TOLD/DISTURBING NEWS
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Topic: I WAS TOLD/DISTURBING NEWS
Posted By: GUNDLR
Subject: I WAS TOLD/DISTURBING NEWS
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 1:42pm
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I WAS INFORMED TODAY BY SOMEONE THAT UTAH L/R HAS AN ALARMING AMOUNT OF COPPER IN IT? THIS GENTLEMAN IS NOT FROM BOARD BUT SAID ITS CRAP KILLS OF CORALS....... THIS TRUE? MARK,OTHERS HERE THAT USE HAVE ANSWERS? WHATS SKINNY................ ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 1:50pm
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Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: Jeffs_little_ocean
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 1:54pm
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Just stay away from the LR in Bingham canyon ------------- Life is good....right? |
Posted By: MadReefer
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 2:22pm
 Jesse
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Adam Blundell wrote:Posted By: mermaidcamille
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 2:29pm
Crap. I better go tell everything in my tank that it should be dead.
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Posted By: BobC63
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 2:51pm
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Brandon -
I would not get too worried about it.
Some of the LBTR (Utah Rock) collection sites are near known copper reserves, but the LBTR was formed by a different process during a different geological time period seperate from the formation of the copper veins...
I have several hundred pounds of LBTR in my own setups and have never had a copper issue. There are dozens of people here that have used Utah rock and I have never come across anyone claiming to have any chemical contamination issues (copper or otherwise) verified as caused by the use of LBTR.
------------- - My Current Tank: 65g Starfire (sitting empty for 2+ years) - * Marine & Reef tanks since 1977 * |
Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 2:56pm
HELPFUL, I APPRECIATE YOUR AWESOME INSIGHT! YOUR A MODERATOR? I UNDERSTAND IT MIGHT BE A CRACK UP TO YOU BUT AS STATED PRIOR IM NEW TO THIS... THANKS FOR AZZ SISTANCE ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 3:00pm
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Well I had to laugh at the thought. Some guy, who isn't even on this site, just tells you that the rock has copper???? Yet hundreds of hobbyists use it, people here use it, and I can tell you that even in research institutions it is used.
I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at whoever told you that but didn't take the time actually back it up with any examples. Some people out there... well... it's too bad they're out there.
Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: thefu
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 3:05pm
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Some people have there reasons...either: a. They sell rock b. They bought overpriced rock and are envious that we here in Utah can get it in our back yards for free. On another note...is there any way to turn off the "all-caps" on your computer?
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Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 3:06pm
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[QUOTE=BobC63]Brandon -
I would not get too worried about it.
Some of the LBTR (Utah Rock) collection sites are near known copper reserves, but the LBTR was formed by a different process during a different geological time period seperate from the formation of the copper veins...
I have several hundred pounds of LBTR in my own setups and have never had a copper issue. There are dozens of people here that have used Utah rock and I have never come across anyone claiming to have any chemical contamination issues (copper or otherwise) verified as caused by the use of LBTR.
AHHH THERE WE GO,SOMEONE WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE! BOB Thats all good but has anyone ever tested any? Of course im not savy on this whole live rock copper thing but Id be lead to believe every rock maybe has some sort of sediment that contains trace amounts right? The differences between any? See like I know alot of people ive seen heard of or even to my tank will leave my scraper that has metal razor blade on for scraping but then it just rusts and im assuming its bad. I mean in ocean yah no big here, my tank smaller its gotta be bigger deal. This is one of those deals like i would really would not have thought of unless someone mentioned. Dang im reading so much everynight. My next inquiry will be about noise, slamming lids/cabinet/noisy pumps etc hurting fish. another time. I can't til mark chimes in DING DONG Thats ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 3:13pm
Cool sorry. Im just learning....I hear something and I just wanna freak out. Im setting up a new tank *Edited by Moderators* So I just really want to do it right this time on the first try you know. I worry about metal particles rust or whatever my old *Edited* cleaning guy LEFT IN BACK OF MY TANK TO RUST... Copper is a big deal in Utah so I wouldnt be surprised to find more/heavier traces of it in rock right? So a fish/coral from other side of planet doesnt get affected? That would seem like a yes to me? Thats where you come in ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 3:19pm
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[QUOTE=thefu]Some people have there reasons...either: a. They sell rock b. They bought overpriced rock and are envious that we here in Utah can get it in our back yards for free. On another note...is there any way to turn off the "all-caps" on your computer? [/QUOTFREE hahaha I wish, the cool (LOCAL) "honest guy" who sold me this stuff got me for $3.50 a pound.....  sucker born every minute.  . Sorry about caps. I type with eraser so if its been on with alot of writing im not redoing sorry..... I have to type with my whole arm/sucks/makes it hard and painful but at least i can type so im lucky  ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: thefu
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 3:27pm
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you type pretty Da** fast with an eraser. all caps just makes it hard to read and implies yelling online. I am sorry that someone got you for $3.50 a pound for uncured dead rock, thats not cool. I am aware of your situation so self collection may not be possible, but even if someone would not just bring you back with some gratis when they go out, at least just paying the gas would be enough. I personally did not use the rock initially because I bought my rock with my tank as a package deal. I have since picked up a few pieces from a friend to fill in a spot in the tank and it is doing fine. Copper is not sprinkled throughout all layers of rock throughout the state nor in the LBTR in the concentrations that are to be at all alarmed about. Now, if you go up to Kennecott and grab some random rubble, then I might be a bit more worried. BTW, how is the sponge doing?
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Posted By: BobC63
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 3:32pm
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Brandon -
Just realize that while "dry" LBTR (dead, sterile, never been in a tank) can be collected basically for free (although most of the collection sites are a good hour's drive outside of SLC) and gets sold here for pretty cheap, if you have "live" LBTR that will command a few bucks a lb, especially if there is any coral life (like mushrooms or xenias or zoa frags) on the rock... conventional "live rock" (Figi, Tonga, etc) from an actual LFS (Local Fish Store) retails for anywhere from $4.99 all the way up to 8 or 9 bucks per pound, again depending on type and amount of "life' on the rock...
Oh, and I don't know if anyone local has actually done like lab tests on the LBTR, but many of us have copper test kits for our tanks and the water still tests at "0 / undetectable" (the desired reading) in tanks with LBTR...
------------- - My Current Tank: 65g Starfire (sitting empty for 2+ years) - * Marine & Reef tanks since 1977 * |
Posted By: Luckedout
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 3:53pm
This is a reply that makes me not want to chime in on your threads. If you are worried about it then you should research it. There are a bunch of posts on here that talk about uses of LBTR. I think Burt has even categorized some of the posts into a helpful research tool. Just look around the site a bit and you'll find a ton of information, which is usually just as easy as typing up a new post. I'd say the majority of people on this board have a little bit of LBTR in their tanks or have had it at some point with no ill effects. I have a mixture of LBTR, tonga and fiji rock, but the majority is LBTR and haven't had any problems with it. I understand being new and being frustrated, but take a deep breath before your post or do a little searching because the information is here for you. ------------- -Ben 90g Mixed reef www.body-balancechiropractic.com |
Posted By: MadReefer
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 4:19pm
| I just had to laugh and that is what I would do if someone told me that it had copper now. But actually I asked the same question when someone told me it had copper, this was before I used it. I'm no geologist but I'm pretty sure this is just a rumor and I've never heard of anyone having a problem. Still I would be careful when selecting LBTR to make sure it doesn't have other rock imbedded in it. |
Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 5:55pm
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Ive heard it also!!!! From one of the fish stores. I use almost all LBTR and have never had a problem. The rock was tested several years ago. It was analyzed for its core ingredients and copper was not one of them. I dont know if I can find the trhead but for you I will try. ------------- http://www.customaquariumfurniture.com" rel="nofollow - Bad "censored" Cabinets Best quality in the valley! He is one sexy bald guy, even with out a finger!(MAC) |
Posted By: jpiotrowski
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 6:02pm
| At least one area had a sample analyzed. I would not just use any LBTR looking rock from a site not analyzed. |
Posted By: larhalli
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 6:29pm
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I also have three tanks with LBTR with no problems. You would never know it was rock from Utah by looking at it. When I first started, I also was told that LBTR was not good for your fish tanks and of course it was by the owner of a fish store who sells live rock from the ocean at $7.99 a pound. With about 300 pounds of rock, not to mention the sand also look at the money I saved. I also had a rock once that had what looked to be rust running throughout so I did not use it. I still have the rock and it is a nice one, makes a good paper weight. I posted a picture years ago. I will see if I can find the picture or maybe take another.
------------- Larry Halliday West Jordan |
Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 9:14pm
ohh man im so bummed. that sponge was so pretty bright blue. It fell and im not sure where it went into back somewhere but for now i cant see.. *Edited* i hope its not lost forever. Is it true it doesnt need direct sun james said? ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 9:56pm
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lukdoubt don't then sorry. If you don't like me then do us both a favor/block me and then you can have board way you like it. I can type and find my way around for 15 minutes or more to read every copper thing that pops up ok. Just like everyone else says its sometimes impossible to find what your looking for........ EXACTLY. EVEN WMAS SEASONED SURFERS say same thing. researched that to...... But you don't really know what i read or do you? I didnt know you were posting police.....Sorry......... I posted because I paid to be here. Anyways for other people who would like to talk utah rock. OK you guys helped out alot. SORRY See I was told that by a guy today he said get it outta there and Im like WHAT........ I just setup two new tanks with that some fiji and some awesome new ceramic stuff that is unbelievable. Whats weird is all utah stuff looks like theres metal all over it, some really weird rust looking color then theres green on glass and others. See doesn't or wouldnt that worry you? Besides fact guy who sold me this stuff obviously ripped me off-in his (words hooking me up) I wouldn't be surprised if this stuff was straight outta kennecott truck. SHADY  Man I just wanna start out on right foot *Edited* ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 10:00pm
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Maybe I should just get rid of and get some fiji or marshall islands stuff... I found some used tonga branch but i need more? ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 10:09pm
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You can always do what ever you want with your tank and rock. However when asking and then receiving many posts about how well it works, I would think you would see the sillyness to this guys statement.
We are trying to help but your really not listening. I'm sure there is some "bad" lbta out there just as there is some "bad" ocean rock as well. However it has a proven track record. I'm sold And I use about 300lbs of it for ....bout 6 years now with out an issue. ------------- http://www.customaquariumfurniture.com" rel="nofollow - Bad "censored" Cabinets Best quality in the valley! He is one sexy bald guy, even with out a finger!(MAC) |
Posted By: thefu
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 10:16pm
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Use the rock and move on.
As far as the sponge I told the folks that picked I up for you to rubber band it or glue it to a rock. It should be fine even behind a rock. It is photosynthetic unlike many of the sponges so it likes a little light but should be fine until it blows out again then have someone attach it to something low to middle of the tank. Seriously, move on from this drama and start enjoying the tank and the hobby. We all make purchases we regret from time to time and it is always best to chill and move on. |
Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 12:46am
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I have heard of one person who had LBTR in their tank and the tank was having issues. They tore the tank down and found what they believed to be copper in the LBTR. To my knowledge it was never tested to find out if that was actually what it was. That person was very vocal about it at the time and warned everyone against using it. The rock and the sand that we collect has been tested and found to be similar to what is collected in the ocean although a little lower quality. I will see if I can find the threads about this in the next couple days if someone else doesn't beat me to it. I have used and know dozens of others who have used a lot of LBTR in their tanks with no adverse effects. I would not hesitate to use it in any of my tanks. |
Posted By: grateful1
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 1:49am
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I'd like to put in another plug for LBTR. Not only is it nearly free and fairly convenient, but using it means that you're not using rock that was yanked off of a reef somewhere (disturbing or destroying homes of the local animals). That's a little tougher to put a dollar figure on, but it's still important. ------------- 37g reef. Frag tank in progress. (801) 403-4006. |
Posted By: Ryan Thompson
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 1:51am
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I used LBTR in all three of my tanks. Actually Brandon the frags you got from me came out of a tank with LBTR. I have had ZERO issues with the rock. Actually both of my nanos started looking better AFTER I added LBTR. The ONLY issue I have with my LBTR is that it is VERY heavy which means not as porous. However I think it is heavy because most of the good stuff has been collected and people had to find new spots. I head Mark found a new spot and it some of the best LBTR he has ever seen. The only other problem I have encountered was USER error. I don't think I cleaned the rock well enough. The LBTR in my one tank is covered in Red Bubble algae and none of the ocean LR is. That leads me to believe that the LBTR is leaching phosphates. Again that is MY error as I was lazy and didn't spend the necessary prep time. I am currently curing LBTR that may or may not go in my 40 gallon. I may end up selling it for $1/pound. I am curing it so that is already live and ready to go for people. It is GREAT stuff and most LFS hate it. Why do they hate it? Because they aren't smart enough to go collect some and cure it themselves!!! Hell, I would pay a LFS $3/lb if they spent the time cleaning it and curing it for me. One LFS just might be adding LBTR to there collection here soon. (I thought I saw Marine Aquatics curing a bunch of it but I could have been wrong) |
Posted By: Tresa
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 8:09am
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Brandon-
Take a deep breath and count to ten backwards :)
Now, if there was by some small chance copper in the rock you have we can do a test for it and go from there :)
The people on the board are trying to help and while they all "know" your situation they may not completely understand everything so have patience! :)
I will stop by and see if I can find your sponge and put it somewhere that it will stay...your urchin does not have it does he?
Hang in there and don't freak out about anything... over analyzing can be your biggest enemy :)
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Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 12:14pm
Ill be alright don't worry.........Its just scary to think Ineed help doing everything and if I chose wrong stuff because I let something slip thru cracks then id feel terrible. I DEFINETELY DONT TRUST THE  SOURCE........AT ALL.....Ive never seen rock do this before. It actually looks like its rusting. I believe most of you using it just how could I know mines from same place! No worries theres like 100 good versus one bad so I wont stress anymore. I wish there was a way we could do a die off report. OR Like Utah rock in tank stuff grows at this pace and has these perimeters versus Fiji which is this with these perimeters. That would be cool. PROBABLY IMPOSSIBLE THOUGH HUH? ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: thefu
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 12:29pm
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Rock will naturally look like its rusting as it cures in the tank if it is new rock and was very white when you put it in there. Soon after the "rust" you will see faint little purple dots of coraline algae (assuming you have at least some seed rock in there) and then it will all slowly turn purple (assuming you maintain proper calcium and alk levels). Be patient, and chill. It will all be fine.
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Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 12:30pm
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The rock is beginning to grow diatoms (looks brown all over). This is completely normal. Over time it will be replaced with green then purple coraline.
I haven't used much LBTR, mostly because I prefer the look of other available rock. But, I have seen literally hundreds of tanks using it and there has never be a substantiated claim of LBTR being the cause of a catastrophic die off.
You should pull it out and replace it with something that doesn't worry you.
But if it was me, I'd leave it in and trust the dozens of experienced aquarists that have posted on this thread and the hundreds who haven't posted that are using it right now with great success.
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Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 1:15pm
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Im not panicking im done.......for now.... I cured all my Fiji rock and it never looked like this..... See I agree, the Fiji stuff I think looks better but the shady dude that brought this stuff for one never told me it was Utah local (free) rock and secondly charged me out the YING YANG for it.... I just reall want this tank to be Idiot free and already one has breached the integrity of my beloved newest fish tank. Its all good I got a couple others from Heather plus im gonna use a ceramic piece for center piece. Man that stuff is cool, and super porous.. Its still bubblin a week ltr. I heard Mark is grabbing some utlr so hopefully he can find me a piece with some character. So to be safe Ill just run like a little of everything....... Thanks for all your guy's help. Please keep it coming if you have anything to add. ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 1:33pm
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There is such a misconception that LBTR is "free". For those of us that harvest it it takes a day out of your time. A bunch of gas and then you have to clean it, prep it before it goes into your tank. I usually spend $70 + the day to go and get it. Once its in a tank for 6 months I would consider it Live just like any other rock. Usually any "Used" rock that is in a tank is worth $3-5 per pound. Those like Mark that give away their excess DRY LBTR are doing so at a loss for themselves. Furthermore if it is delivered there is an expense involved there as well.
What I'm saying is I hope nobody thinks they can get rock with out some kind of expense. It definitely doesn't come free. But it doesn't cost $-9 per pound either. ------------- http://www.customaquariumfurniture.com" rel="nofollow - Bad "censored" Cabinets Best quality in the valley! He is one sexy bald guy, even with out a finger!(MAC) |
Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 1:54pm
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Yah I think most understand that, that should be common sense. But yes its probably is good you mentioned that though........ EVERYONE that ever helps me usually states there doing it outta their heart and arent in it to bang a buck but more a NETWORK or just to have a new friend. *Edited* First of all money for gas,time,helping is always respected. I like hooking people up personally cause like example if you need guns/ammo/tuff country lift kit/laser cutting/tires/vehicle fabrication/home theater/cabinets/volkswagen-porsche work-motors/copper rain gutters/river rafting/machining work/paint body work/wakeboard boats/skiing equipment/ blah blah we got owners as sponsors-friends... Id like to thank TRESA and SANDY/JAMES especially cause they have really stepped up and hooked me up with great amounts of help../././ My tank is full now and so beautiful.. Im sure Sandy doesnt mind gas money/free rock/salt/frags or whatever else we trade but thats not why she does it. People like us enjoy giving and helping, its just in YOU.... Isnt that what friends are for? Speaking of Mark I cant wait to see nice new rock he got today......... ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: Roy
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 2:17pm
I am cycling some beautiful rock I got from Mark. It has tons of personality and looks great! Yes My rock has a diatom bloom and looks gold/ brown colored. The only copper I found was a 22 bullet and caseing in my olitic sand when I was cleaning it. ------------- 90 gal Corner with / 200 gal sump. |
Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 4:34pm
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Yeah thats exactly what it looks like Roy! Marks a cool guy hes doing same for me.....Im excited to see,get quality stuff. well hold 22lr shells please.........THATS FUNNY ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 9:06pm
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Because we felt this thread had valid information that could be useful to other members of the board several posts in this thread have been edited or moved to the Presidency Forum rather than deleting the entire thread. Please get on with the business of discussing LBTR. Thank you, The WMAS Presidency |
Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 9:24pm
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Awesome, finally. Thank you I was going to ask Mark this tom which I still will and even though Im reading the cycling old thread. OK heres my question. If I have used Fiji but was outta water, unprepared,unclean,DRY UTAH, ceramic homemade rock Now would I assume the dry unprepared rock will take longest to cure so even with me trying to speed up process I might be screwed into having to wait a couple of months instead of 1? I sure would love to run a test on this stuff. The couple of ceramic pieces I got from an awesome shop in midvale is still a week later bubbling and filling with water. Now thats some porous stuff....... ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 9:50pm
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The curing process is basically allowing any biological stuff on the rock that is not alive any longer to rot and be processed into Nitrate by Bacteria. Therefore the more dead "stuff" on the rock the longer it will take to cure. The process of become "live" is a whole other story. Rock from the ocean or long time tank may be "live" but still need to be cured because some of the life has died. Of course if that rock was allowed to dry out completely then you simply have rock with dead stuff on it. It is my opinion that cured dead rock, LBTR, and Ceramic are likely to become "live" in roughly the same amount of time. That ceramic stuff is pretty cool! |
Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 10:56pm
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Yah ok. So see if mostly is die off then new rocks are clean/new Fiji rock was already in water so really if i only have a little crap rock in there then this should be sooner than i think. Cant wait till tom ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |
Posted By: dustponds10
Date Posted: January 09 2010 at 11:16pm
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Well from my experience I have only had one problem with the rock myself. It being that once certain algaes colonize on it, it is harder then heck to get rid of it. I didnt have any problems with corals just took a long time to get it cycled and it was hard to get rid of nusance algaes. Other then that I can pull up some pictures of a 75 gallon tank that was 95 percent Lake Bonniville tufa rock. If you would like to see them send me a pm and Ill send them to you. Dustin ------------- 120 ASM G-3 T-5 lighting 130 frag system T-5 lighting asm G-1x |
Posted By: larhalli
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 3:28am
I was searching through some old posts. I went back to April or May of 2007 and found a bunch on field trips and rock. I also found the picture of the rock I had with the rust color on it. This rock was very porous and light. Before being washed it was ball shaped covered with sand and mud. It lost about half it's size by being washed, but all cleaned up nicely. Here is a picture of what I posted back then.
------------- Larry Halliday West Jordan |
Posted By: Luckedout
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 11:02am
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Yeah if it had iron ore it would show up as rust. At one time in the earths history the oceans were completely rust colored as iron in the ocean beds was slowly oxidized. (saw that on Discovery channel) Copper would show up as a light blue or bluish green. Of course, even in Kennecott the copper ore deposits in the rock are not concentrated enough to turn the rock colors. ------------- -Ben 90g Mixed reef www.body-balancechiropractic.com |
Posted By: GUNDLR
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 11:45am
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great pic. and yes thats what some of this looks like. I just took those ones i have left out but other stuff is fiji good looking stuff plus rock i got from heather is cool and almost floats, thanks Heather....... I just dont remember this much rust colored (cyano) last time I cycled tank either but I did have some super quality FIJI rock Anyways I guess shell be fine ------------- I LUV GUNS..... DEFENSEARMS.COM RECONARMS.COM ASK ME ABOUT BUILDING UR DREAM AR-15 LOADED FOR $300.00 START RECONGLOBALGROUP.COM MARINE RECON.... FOREIGN WAR VETERAN |