My 150 Gallons Of Madness
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Topic: My 150 Gallons Of Madness
Posted By: builderofdreams
Subject: My 150 Gallons Of Madness
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 5:16pm
Let me know what ya think. Important to know your feedback good or bad. Appreciate your takin the time to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M0XmGYm1q8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M0XmGYm1q8
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Posted By: CapnMorgan
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 5:22pm
Which wrasse is that in the fist few seconds? I know I've seen them before but I can't remember the name.
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Posted By: ninja_brandon
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 5:29pm
Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 5:34pm
Recaro wrasse.
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Posted By: Luckedout
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 6:04pm
Very nice tank! What do you use for flow? I love your water movement.
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Posted By: CapnMorgan
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 6:16pm
Thanks! I knew I had seen them but couldn't remember the name, how hard was it to get him to eat? Also if you don't mind me asking, where did you pick him up?
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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 6:17pm
i have 2-Korilia 4s and two modified rio that are directed behind the rock work.Kinda ugly to look at but serves a very vital part of this system.Sacrafis's.
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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 6:48pm
He comes with one bad point.He is a serious digger.Aquatica in orem has one now.thats is where he came from.
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Posted By: CapnMorgan
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 7:21pm
Awesome I'll have to check it out.
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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 9:26pm
CapnMorgan after looking at your 180 pictures you mightr want to reconsider purchasing the Ricaro Wrasse.everything you have in your sand this wrasse will flip it over to check for what ever he eats out of the sand.They are pretty strong so they can flip over some good sized rocks.In my video you'll notice there is nothing small or loose or living in the sand.He is the reason.You have alot of brains and what not in yours and you will be constant flipping them back over.
By the way your Tank is a beautiful piece of art work.
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Posted By: CapnMorgan
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 9:29pm
Thanks for the advice, sounds like I'll have to pass on it. It is a really gorgeous fish! Thanks for the compliment! Your tank is awesome as well! I really like the way you have your rock arranged.
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Posted By: Aquatic Evolution
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 4:30pm
Red Coris Wrasse, not Ricaro :)
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Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 9:20pm
have you had that hippo very long? it has HLLE pretty bad
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 10:10am
builderofdreams wrote:
i have 2-Korilia 4s and two modified rio that are directed behind the rock work.Kinda ugly to look at but serves a very vital part of this system.Sacrafis's. | It doesn't have to be that way. Have you ever thought of placing the powerheads down near the sand behind some rockwork? In that position, with the water streams pointing straight up or diagonally up to the surface, the gas exchange is improved and the pH rises. Water circulation also improves because the streams spread out in all directions from the top even creating vortex turbulence. All of this results in a healthier tank.
The Yellow and Powder Blue Tangs look skinny. Are you feeding them an unending supply of algae, nori and lettuce? Do you feed Emerald Entree?
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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 4:07pm
I recieved the Blue hippo free from Aquatica because of the Facial problem.I have had him for about 9 months now,and beleive it or not its not a bad as it was.I was told that it is a nutrional problem.No Algae.I do feed Seaweed among other more meaty foods.They eat anything and everything.What is HLLE.
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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 4:15pm
I will give that a try.I took down a 90 gallon tank prior to this one and had noticed the collection of everything trapped behind the rock.
i do feed a variety of vegges and also alot of meaty foods.The larger hippo i received him with the facial problem.My Kids call him Scareface.little rough to look at but very active and and full of energy.Eats like a horse,Everything asnd anything.Any other helpful comments are greatlt appreciated.I have only been doing this for about3 years and am no way an expert in this Hobby.Will take all info i can get.
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Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 11:48pm
builderofdreams wrote:
I recieved the Blue hippo free from Aquatica because of the Facial problem.I have had him for about 9 months now,and beleive it or not its not a bad as it was.I was told that it is a nutrional problem.No Algae.I do feed Seaweed among other more meaty foods.They eat anything and everything.What is HLLE. |
its not a nutritional problem. I picked up a few fish from hobbiest who were fed VERY well that had this issue. I'm a firm believer it is water quality issues and/or stress. Larger tangs are not meant to live in tiny tanks. Especially if the water quality is bad. It should reverse itself if he is in a less stressful environment and you keep up good water quality (which im sure you do since you have anice reef tank)
we got a hippo when we were back in ohio that was probably about 6 inches living in a 75 gallon with HLLE so terribly that his gills were showing on both sides. after nearly a year in our 180 he completely regrew his flesh, but was scarred for life... very sad.
HLLE= head and lateral line erosion
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 11:42am
It's my opinion that nutrition is part of the cause of HLLE. Poor nutrition actually causes physical and emotional stress. Medical clinics are packed with people in this condition. One of the reasons that those people continue in this condition is that the medical industry is misinformed and tends to answer with medication rather than true nutrition.
By "seaweed" do you mean Nori sheets? No algae to munch on? I'd be interested to see a pic of the full tank. The video did not show the full tank until the very end. You are doing well, but if you want to provide an even healthier menu for the fish, vary the diet toward plant foods. Include a variety of green leafy lettuce and use Emerald Entree rather than plain frozen shrimp. Also cut out any dry prepared/processed foods.
Oh and the detritus/crud that can accumulate behind the rockwork can actually decrease with the change in powerhead position and flow as I suggested. Another thing to do is remove as much rock from the sand as possible. Come to the Mountainwest Reef Fest and you'll see what I mean. I'll be demonstrating that there during the Reefscaping Competition. http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43875 - http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43875
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Posted By: CapnMorgan
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 4:23pm
I agree w/ mark on emerald entree. I haven't found a tang yet that doesn't love that stuff. Ocean Nutrition formula 2 works great as well. I feed my fish as much variety of foods as Ii can. I think this helps them stay healthy. I don't usually have trouble fattening up any sort of fish. My Naso was extremely skinny when I got him, however after a couple weeks he looked normal again. Now he could be considered fat! Here's a list of the foods I use. I tend to mix up 3-4 varieties at once and change the combination every couple days. Enriched Super Brine Shrimp Piscine Energetics Mysis Emerald Entree Formula 2 Cylclopeeze Romain Lettuce Nori Squid Plankton and Krill
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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 12 2010 at 11:03pm
By "seaweed" do you mean Nori sheets? No algae to munch on? I'd be interested to see a pic of the full tank. The video did not show the full tank until the very end. You are doing well, but if you want to provide an even healthier menu for the fish, vary the diet toward plant foods. Include a variety of green leafy lettuce and use Emerald Entree rather than plain frozen shrimp. Also cut out any dry prepared/processed foods.
Mark here is the picts of the tank,as requested.Please do not hesitate to let me know your or anybodys elses opinion.
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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 12 2010 at 11:12pm
Lights Up.
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 10:59am
That's a very nice growth of coral.
My comments regarding your tank will be exactly what I recommend for so many other tanks.
You have a marvelous opportunity to improve the flow and the aquascaping
to increase the health and beauty of this tank now and in the long
term.
Come to the Mountainwest Reef Fest so I can show you what I mean. Here
is an example and we can discuss this further then or now:

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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 11:21am
Now i see what you mean.The less rock physically touching the sand the better.Really Hard with literally all the rock haveing some form of coral on it.
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 7:52pm
I was in a hurry this morning. Moving rock up off the sand is not so hard. Small pieces of clean Utah Rock set in the sand can support larger pieces of LR. The more open the sand, the better it can do it's job. LS is about 50% of the tanks filtration.
The other thing is flow. See those powerheads and the return nozzle aiming down? We have discovered that pointing water streams up toward the surfaqce is a much better way to oxygenate the tank and also is a better use of water flow. Move the powerheads down close to the sand and aim them diagonally up at the water surface, even hitting each other at the top center. Goosneck the return nozzles up so they make the surface ripple. The two main powerheads in the tank above are hidden. The center powerhead is a "Poormans Wavemaker" 
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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 14 2010 at 9:45pm
Well here is what i came up with.
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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 14 2010 at 9:57pm

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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: October 14 2010 at 10:47pm
You get a gold star
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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 16 2010 at 10:55am
i thought i heard mention of a check not a gold star. Thanks for all the help
mark.
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: October 16 2010 at 12:18pm
I usually do this for free, but I'll accept your check.
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Posted By: Turbostud653
Date Posted: October 16 2010 at 12:28pm
Those tanks are Beautiful!
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Posted By: jwoo
Date Posted: October 16 2010 at 2:27pm
Love the new rock work!
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Posted By: SGH360
Date Posted: October 16 2010 at 2:45pm
amazing pic, the anemone stands out looks like its neon color
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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 12:20pm
Thanks to Mark for all the Help and Advice i reconstructed the rock work and also since i can now see more of the gravel-sand i was using.I felt that this would be the icing on the cake.I added 70 pounds of live sand over a course of two days.Now the System is Complete.
Thanks again Mark,could not have done it with out you.  
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Posted By: jdskidawg
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 12:28pm
Looks great! 
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 5:17pm
I am truly impressed by how you took my suggestions and the pic of my old tank and came up with aquascaping that opens it up beautifully. The way you have placed rocks jutting out over the sand is wonderful. I know how hard it is not to fill every hole with another rock or coral, but you did it. There is both beautiful form and function.
If you don't mind, I'll make one other comment. Notice how the top of the reef structure creates an almost straight horizontal line. It's hard to make that line crooked by creating saddles, peaks and valleys but it sure looks more natural and artistic, if you know what I mean.
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