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Topic: Micah's Whole House System Build
Posted By: Sculpin
Subject: Micah's Whole House System Build
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 8:45pm
This will hopefully be the first of many posts I'll be making on my whole house Tank Build project.

The plan:
To connect all the tanks in my house to one filtration system in the basement.

The Breakdown:
Filtration/frag tank system- A combination of 4 tanks will constitute this system in a tiered pattern. The first tank will be a 10 gallon and hold both the poly bag and protein skimmer and be highest tank in the filtration system. The tank will have two holes drilled in the top corners, which pour into a lower, 40 gallon breeder which will be a frag tank. The 40 breeder will also have two holes drilled in the top corners and pour out into another 40 breeder which will be a refugium. I plan on having two parts to the refugium. The larger will be where Macro algae and all light loving stuff will live. The other, smaller half will be sectioned off with dark acrylic and hold live rock for sponges and other, dark loving critters. Half of the water coming from the frag tank will go to light loving part of the refugium and the other half of the water will go to the darkened part. The refugium will also have two holes drilled in the top corners that will pour into the last and lowest tank (that I haven't figured out the size of yet). This will hold the heaters, auto top-off and connect to a GenX 55HP pump for my return (I already have one, thats why I'm picking it, and I think it will do the job nicely). The water will, until I get the 120 display, cycle into it's self. I'm also thinking about putting a safety overflow drain on the top of the last tank just incase (I don't like a flooded basement).

29 BioCube- This will be a simple but nice display with only one major modification. It will have an auto top off that continuously pours in salt water from the basement filtration system and flow back into it again. I'm going to keep real basic corals in here and not go too extravagant. Just lots of different and beautiful zoanthids and maybe some ricordias. 

120 Display- First off I would like to get your feed back on this one, so feel free to pipe in and let me know what you think. The tank (if I end up purchasing one new) will be a Aqueon with dual center overflows. As for the stand, I'm still deciding between a steal stand with black removable MDF boards and a hanging fixture, or a traditional style wood stand, using either bamboo or cherry. Both options I would build myself. I was a steal fabricator for most of my life (my dad owned a fab shop that I worked in from age 12 to 21) and I think I can muddle through carpentry if I decide to go with that option too. I've also yet decided on lighting. I'm thinking between a freakn' ton of 55w 48" T5 bulbs or use a fixture I already own which is a older Aqua Medic SpaceLight (2 250w MH's and 2 36w CP's). I can't decide because I love how you can mix and match the T5 bulbs till you get perfect lighting, but I also like the Spacelight because, well I already have it. As for coral and aqua-scaping, I want lots and lots of SPS and lots and lots of LPS's like Trachs, Favias, brains, cynarina, duncans and so one. Also some zoanthids for the darker areas and whatever every else that peaks my fancy.


What is Done- So far I've got my 29 BioCube rockn' with some fish and Macro and over this weekend I built the benches that the filtration system will set on. The room that they are in (which has the furnace and water heater in it) is as big as a bed room. I'm, in addition, building a work bench for tinkering and fragging, a bandsaw, some shelves, and a sink in that room.

And now some photos-

This is a top view of the Filtration/Frag tank system-

And the side view-
A view with the Display-

These are the stands I built today. I stole and modified the design from a how to build a work bench youtube video I found. It turned out very very stout, so perfect for for a bunch of tanks. If your interested in building some yourself, here is the link-  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFpeNVO80kY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFpeNVO80kY

And my Nano-

Well here I go, wish me luck and please give me feed back, this is the first time I'm actually setting up my own large system.


Micah



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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Replies:
Posted By: griffith
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 8:47pm
Cool -- keep us posted

Linn


Posted By: MadReefer
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 9:10pm

10 gallon tanks can work, but the odds are against you. I would just get something with a bit thicker glass if I were you. It's not drilling them when they break. It's a tiny bit of leverage on the plumbing that you connect to the hole that will cause them to break.



Posted By: Deluxe247
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 11:59pm
This is a very cool concept. It will be fun to watch come together. The only issue I have so far (just my opinion) is that I always like to put my skimmer after my refugium so the macroalgae and other goodies have lots of nutrients, then the skimmer just removes what's left after that. That said, I have run a system with the skimmer in front of the fuge, and it worked great too.
Also, I agree with MadReefer on the thin glass. You might consider getting a plastic storage tote as an inexpensive, and more ductile, alternative.

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Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 12:11am
That is a good point, I think I will for the first and last containers.

Thanks!


Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Posted By: Jeffs_little_ocean
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 12:15am
Agreed, plus 10 gallon tanks arent really deep enough to utilize the filter sock very well. I would go with a 20 gallon tank. Im not really a fan of plastic tote's as I like to be able to look in and see things. Also they usually have 20 gallon tanks at the centerville DI for like 4 dollars. Ummm, not that Ive ever gone in there. Ummm Ive just heard about the tanks from, ummmm a friend.....Confused

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Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 1:00am
I'll have to check it out, I have no pride about buying tanks from the local DI. But shoes and socks... that is where I draw the line.


Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 12:09am
Got a steal of a deal on a 120 tonight. $100 bucks w/ stand. It's got a few deep scratches in it so thats a bummer but I think I can make it work.

And the journey begins!



Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: SGH360
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 12:19am
so you are the one who bought the 120G setup. Cool cant wait to see it set upSmile


Posted By: MadReefer
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 12:22am
Originally posted by Sculpin Sculpin wrote:

And the journey begins!
Clap


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 1:36am
I think this weekend I'll build a new stand for it. I don't really care for the old one, seemed a little rickety.

I'll make sure and do a good photo set of the stand build.

Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 12:38am
Update:

This weekend I ran the RO line from under my sink and into the utility room. No easy task and it took me all morning. 

As I was at Lowes buying some fittings I found some super cool, heavy duty plastic bins that I think I'm going to use instead of glass tanks. I will still be using a 40 breeder for my frag tank though. There was a 27 gallons and one that must of been 40 gallons (it didn't say).

I'm think having the first tank in the system be one of these 27 gallon bin, then the second will be the 40 breeder, the third be another 27 gallon as the refugium, and the last bin will be the larger 40 gallonish one. I plan on putting a bunch of LR in the last one and keep the lid closed to create a dark refugium.

It's not as cool as I wanted it to be but its a little more economically feasible and I think it will all do very nicely. I'm kind of stoked about these bins I found, they were pretty tough so I don't think there will be any risk of them falling apart. 


Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: MadReefer
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 2:24am
I think you should put the skimmer, then fuge, then frag, then sump. Because the fuge will feed the frags.


Posted By: laynframe
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 10:17am
What about when you loose power to your home and all the water runs from all the tanks back to your sump, did you calculate for that? Even with check valves your going to have a lot of water run backConfused

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Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 8:13pm
I've been debating where to put the fuge and frag tank and you make a good point MadReefer. I may do that. That said, the system will be built so I can move one to another if I don't like how it's set up.

As for the system overflowing, I think I'll be ok. The last take where the ATO, heaters, and return pump will be is about 40 gallons. I'm thinking I'll put the ATO at about 20-30% high and leave the rest for back flow. That will be around 20-30 gallons and if that is a problem, I'll put in a check valve and stop any water trying to come back through the return line. I'll do a FW test with it all when it's up and running to see if it over flows. It is a concern of mine as well.

Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: kethomps
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 11:24pm
First hand experience with 10g drilled tanks is they don't work.  Drilling is fine but any pressure with the bulkhead and they break.  I also have a system running to my basement.  My 210 drains into two 125's.  They are stacked; both overflow drains of one 125g drains into the second 125.  I split the 210 up, one overflow goes into each 125.  I have a frag tank that is fed from the bottom 125 with a pump; the frag tank has bottom drains.  The bottom 125 is side drilled and that feeds the return pump (reeflo barricuda).   Bottom 125 has the protein skimmer, probes, etc.  Top 125 has live rock and macro algae. 

I love the refugium tanks downstairs for ease of water  changes and no water damage upstairs.  Make sure your return pump is strong enough for the head distance.   You mentioned check valves and these are a must.  I also have several watchdog water alarms strategically placed in case of a water leak. 


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Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 7:09pm
So first off I took advantage of Petco's dollar a gallon sale and picked myself up a 40 breeder today. I also got a super heavy duty 27 gallon storage bin from Lowes that I think will do nicely for all my other tanks. A few things have changed for this project namely I'm only using one 40 breeder (frag tank) and the rest will be these heavy duty bins. I figured the more glass I have to drill the greater the changes are of me braking one.

At this point though I'm not sure how many bins I should use. If I wanted to go all out, I could fit 5 of these 27 gallon bins and my 40 breeder in the space that I have (2 of the bins would be on the floor). If I did that, my sump would be approximately 148 gallons (no I didn't do my math wrong, I plan on having the last two that would be on floor-level at the most half full). All that water would be cool but I'm leaning to running 4 bins. The first and highest would be the poly-bag/skimmer, the second the refugium, then to the 40 gallon frag tank, and the last two bins would be on the floor-level connected to the return. 

What do you think?

Also, last weekend I took some time and built a work bench. I followed the same design plan as the first benches for the sump but just made it higher and attached a piece of melamine covered board on the top. Cool huh? The next couple things to do will be hooking up a large laundry sink in that room and doing the wiring. I'm thinking about giving the system it's own double 20 amp breaker. I'm pretty sure there would be no way I pop that baby.

Anyways, heres some pics of my new work bench and the bin I'll be using-

Bench

Bin next to my new 40 breeder

Bin


Well thats my update. If you have any advice, questions, or comments please let me know. Your feedback has already been very valuable, keep it coming!


Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 6:31am
Check valves are prone to failure. I would never use them though I know tanks that do. It really is very easy (for me Embarrassed)to design the system with return lines at the surface so that the total drainage from this multi-tank system would be only 3-5 gallons, an amount easily held in the lowest tub where the return pump and ATO are situated.

Be sure to soap and rinse extra well those black storage tubs. There are harmful mold release chemicals used on those that may not get washed off before they leave the factory.

One extra advantage to those plastic bins is that you can cut a notch and glue into the notch a DIY spillway instead of having to drill and use expensive bulkheads.


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Posted By: jcom
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 9:42am
Micah, ditto to what Mark said...be careful with that bin, I know it well.  It's the one from Lowe's with the yellow lids.  Might be fine, but I had one (for camping storage) and it reeked of chemical off-gassing for almost 2 years...finally had to use another one.  Even after numerous washes, it still smelled VERY strongly.  I would seriously consider going with a different brand.  Just FWIW. 


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 7:00pm
I just wanted to update you guys on my project. I didn't give up but I did put this project in hiatus for the past 6 month.

Today I got the electrical done. I ran two new and separate 20 amp lines down to the utility room and installed 10 outlets (5 for one line 5 for the other). I'm thinking it's probably a little overkill but at least I have peace of mind that I won't be overwhelming one little 15 amp line.

The next step will be installing a sink and getting it all plumbed. From there I can finally set up tanks.

Jcom, I'll have to agree with you on the tub. I think I'll ditch it. Does anyone know of some strong tubs out there that don't smell of horrible chemicals? 


Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 4:50pm
Here is my revised set up (for now). I'm still going to do the 120 upstairs, just not yet. This will be phase 1.

From left to right it will go-
40 Breeder Refuguim
40 Breeder Frag tank
20 Tall Crypt tank
90 Sump
Then a Genx 55HP Pump I have will be my return.

What do you guys think?



Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: Jeffatpm
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by kethomps kethomps wrote:

I also have several watchdog water alarms strategically placed in case of a water leak. 
 
What are these???
 
I have been thinking of doing this when we move into a house.  I was thinking something like the pond containers found at lowes or big fish tanks that are all scratched up and no ones wants.  Where/what did you decide on for a return pump.  Something to do that volume has got to be pretty big.


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210 Reef with loads of LEDS
Large Fishey Room
Located Near Jordan Landing in West Jordan.


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 9:52pm
I currently plan on using a GenX 55HP that I've got. I'm not sure if that will be enough but I hope so. 

Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Posted By: Deluxe247
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 11:43pm
Originally posted by Jeffatpm Jeffatpm wrote:

Where/what did you decide on for a return pump.  Something to do that volume has got to be pretty big.


The biggest factor in choosing a pump for that type of setup (sump in the basement) is the vertical head height (how far the pump has to push the water up). Lots of pumps can throw a lot of water for large tanks, but aren't pressure rated to lift a column of water 10+ feet.

By the way, I think that plan looks good having the skimmer at the end. It leaves plenty of goodies in the water for the refugia to gobble up before the skimmer pulls it out.

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Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 12:46am
Ok so I took it to the next level and did a complete first draft of the plumbing. 

I understand there may be a few things that might be confusing but if you study it a bit you can see the method to my madness. First off I need a way I can close down water to the display and divert it to the 40 breeders so I put ball valves (the red things) to shut down the flow in and out to the display and a ball valve connecting the the out from the return pump to the lines going to the 40 Breeders.

Second I'm installing an overflow outlet that goes to a sink drain. I figured I could use this to divert the water from the sump and into this drain via the return pump. This will make water changes a snap!

I'm sure I'll be investing about $100+ into plumbing but I think the convenience will be quite worth it. But of course I'm always open for feed back. I have a tendency to overcomplicate things so your feedback is very appreciated.



Micah




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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Posted By: Akira
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 2:39am
as i am new to this i have 1 question .if ur pump is on the bottom wont it always suck crap into it?ok 2 questions , where does the nano drain to ?


Posted By: Akira
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 2:44am
after further review u may also be able to eliminate a few ball valves and still be able to run ur pump in a by-pass mode around tanks if needed
(im new so any help would be appreciated)


Posted By: Deluxe247
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 8:50am
Pumps do tend to suck in junk, but not necessarily as much as you'd think. I always use an intake screen, and you just have to clean it out occasionally.

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90G Mixed Reef


Posted By: Deluxe247
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 9:00am
Your design scheme looks pretty slick. I'm assuming the CA reactor and nano are looped to drain back into the main filtration system. Regarding the ball valves, I wouldn't eliminate any. Technically, you could get rid of one each on the drain and return lines, but for convenience sake i would keep the ones up under the tank (at least the drain valve) so you can balance the drain flow with the return flow. You might even try a gate valve there instead for better precision.

Also, having ball valves on both sides of the pump is a good idea. If you add some unions between the valves and the pump it makes servicing the pump really easy without having to destroy plumbing to remove the pump.

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90G Mixed Reef


Posted By: sunflashx
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 12:34pm
My  sump lives in the basement also.

As a general sort of consideration, the length of pipe makes alot of noise if you run a normal open drain.  Mine has 2 drains going to the basement, one runs as a siphon and the other is backup open drain (The "Herbie" drain method).  This works really well for me.  The noise emitted from the water moving through the piping in non siphon mode wasn't going to work for me.  I would have probably ended up moving the sump under the display.

I'd run two drains to the basement regardless of what you do with the drain style for redundancy.



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Posted By: Jeffatpm
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 6:14pm
I like the idea of two drains for safety, I don't understand your "herbie" drain, can you explain further?
 
What program are you using to do the draw up's?


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210 Reef with loads of LEDS
Large Fishey Room
Located Near Jordan Landing in West Jordan.


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 6:29pm
I'm using Adboe Illustrator to do the drawing. I'd also like to know what a "herbie" drain is too. 

Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: October 30 2011 at 6:27pm
With a few google searches regarding the "Herbie" method I found the original post by Herbie on RC. I'm not even close to finishing the thread (62 pages takes time) but I'm getting the gist of it. 

If you're in the mood for a good read on how to get your tank as quite as possible (or so is the claim) read this-  http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344892 - http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344892

I'm not sure if I'm going to apply it yet but I'll keep reading and see if I get convinced.


MIcah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: October 30 2011 at 9:23pm
After some serious reading and researching here is the design for the Herbie Method with dual overflows (I plan on getting a Aqueon 120). Obviously this would be a ton more plumbing but I like the results that people are having in cutting down noise (they if done right it is absolutely noise free). Noise is one of my biggest concerns with this set up. I may just do this even though it would be more plumbing.

Thanks for the advice Sunflashax.

Here is the Herbie Method Diagram implemented in my system plan-



Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Posted By: MIK3B
Date Posted: October 31 2011 at 12:31pm
Looking good! Mad Illustrator skills, very nice.

Couple of things off the top of my head, I assume you'll also have a ball valve on the fuge to taper down the flow...you'll want way less flow through there as opposed to the frag tank.

And yes, unions are a must for pump maintainence and I like that you have a safety to the floor drain too.

Remember that with every 90 PVC you use you lose pressure as well. I like to use 2) 45's in place of a 90. I do worry that even with an 1140GPH pump you might not have enough flow to the display. Head drops the output of your pump sharply. See if you can find a chart for your pump online that will show you the approx GPH at your calculated head height and then subtract a bunch for your fuge/frag/CA reactor and nano. My guess is you'll want more pressure. You can always throttle back a more powerful pump. Once you get it all hooked up you can temporarily plumb you overflow to a trash can or large bucket and use a stopwatch and a little multiplication to get a fairly accurate GPH through the display.

Keep us posted!


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: October 31 2011 at 12:50pm
Thanks Mik3b! I'm a little worried about the head pressure too. Rule of thumb is you gain 2' of head for every elbow so I'll just do a Y fitting then spa flex line going into the tank. That should at least help. 
I'll do unions on the pump and if the genX doesn't work, I can always just get a bigger pump if need be.

For now I'm trying to get a laundry sink plumbed in the room along with an 8' florescent shop light. I'm excited to see it come together. Electrical is done, the tables are done, I just need to finish a few things with the set up and I then I can get the tanks drilled and plumbed. 

Now getting the upstairs 120 display going to be a different story. I still need to get a tank and build a stand but I'm taking it slow and trying not to put the cart before the horse. Besides, if the filtration system has a few months to establish before the 120 display is in that will make my cycle time very short.


Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: MIK3B
Date Posted: October 31 2011 at 1:00pm
Spa tubing with a Y...even better than 2) 45's! Lets hope your pump provides enough when its all hooked up. Guess you could always run a seperate dedicated pump doen there for the fuge, reactor and nano and just go straight up with the 55HP.

Man, that'll be nice to have a laundry sink right there. I have to walk to the kitchen/bathroom sink or bathtub every time I need to rinse something.

My current tank is in the front room, but I did plumb RO/DI and a 1/4" line that runs to the basement floor drain that I've rigged a funnel to so I can at last dump and rinse test tubes or pipettes but an actual sink in a dedicated area!?

Awesome!


Posted By: Chevmaro
Date Posted: October 31 2011 at 1:21pm
That looks really complicated.  Good luck.


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: October 31 2011 at 1:28pm
It is complex but I think it's going to be freakn' awesome!

Imagine, I'll have somewhere in the volume of 250-300 gallons in my system and nearly half that is for filtration of some kind. I could probably get away with doing nothing on the system for 6 months and it still would be running strong and healthy.

Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Posted By: Deluxe247
Date Posted: November 01 2011 at 1:03pm
That's probably true. I change water on my 90 only about every 5 or 6 months.

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90G Mixed Reef


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: November 01 2011 at 4:28pm
I got my 8 foot florescent light installed today and is looking good. Tonight I'll be picking up a laundry sink and begin plumbing it just to the left of the work bench.


Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: Kahuna
Date Posted: November 02 2011 at 9:49am
Don't underestimate the amount of humidity that your basement will experience.  I've had a similiar set up and the room in the basement was hit heavy with humidity. It was a workshop. But everything started to rust. Just a heads up. 
Looks great!


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Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: November 02 2011 at 10:10am
The heater/airconditioner is in that room too so my hope is that it will spread the humidity throughout the whole house. Makes me wonder, is there is such a thing that senses humidity in the room and will switch on just the fan of the heater? If there is it should be called a humidistat (ya know like a thermostat)

Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: November 02 2011 at 10:11am
Ok no joke a Humidistat does exist! I think I'll look into it. I probably could wire it into my thermostat somehow.

Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: MIK3B
Date Posted: November 02 2011 at 8:46pm
Funny that you guessed the name of it too! We use humidity control systems at my work to keep our print rooms at a specific RH.

The nice thing about the shop light is they are cheap, and when it rusts, you can yank it, paint it and wait till it rusts again, or just pitch it and get a new one. I wired and screwed some plain end caps up in my parents garage and skipped the metal reflector. It didn't add much light anyway and the ceiling was bright white and reflected plenty of light though.


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: November 02 2011 at 9:53pm
Tonight I got the laundry sink in. I spent about 30 minutes with a hammer drill and a cheap bit trying to drill 1 hole for the mounting bracket. I finally gave up, went to Lowes, and bought the most expensive 1/2" concrete bit they had. It worked like a charm. 

Now all I have to do is plumb the sink... holy crap this is a ton of work!

This better be worth it all in the end.


Micah




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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

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Posted By: Jeffatpm
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 9:29am
Herbie Method 
http://www.youtube.com/user/BulkReefSupplyCom?utm_source=www.Bulkreefsupply.com+Newsletter&utm_campaign=c075174172-BRS_TV_How_To_Set_Up_an_Aquarium_Ep_6_11_3_2011&utm_medium=email#p/u/0/aaDDKNA4cn0


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210 Reef with loads of LEDS
Large Fishey Room
Located Near Jordan Landing in West Jordan.


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: November 10 2011 at 4:25pm
Ok so I've not had the money this past week to progress on the baisment sump but if I can't spend money now I sure can figure out ways to spend money later... right?

So I wan't to build my own fish tank. Glass fish tank that is and Eurobrace to boot. I've been pricing it out and it really is almost 6's but this will be way more fun and I can get it just the way I want it. So here is my first draft design. This will be my first project like this and I'm sure it's bound to evolve so as always if you have any feedback please let me know. I love feedback.

To explain the design better I'm doing Starphire glass (low iron) on the front and side panels. The top bracing, rear, and bottom panels will be made out of the most economical but decent glass I can find. The black lines are 1/16" beads of silicone. Let me know if you have any questions.


Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: MIK3B
Date Posted: November 11 2011 at 10:09am
On my phone all I see is a black box....


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: November 11 2011 at 7:59pm
Ok so I think I fixed it. For some reason when I export from Adobe Illustrator to Jpeg that happens.


Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: November 12 2011 at 1:55pm
Can you guys see the pic of the tank design now?

Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: Deluxe247
Date Posted: November 12 2011 at 2:37pm
yeah

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90G Mixed Reef


Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: November 19 2011 at 6:23pm
After several failed attempts I finally finished the plumbing of my laundry sink. I used PEX hose to run the hot and cold but the real trick was  installing the drain line. I think I waisted about 15 fittings and 5' of tubing with all my screw ups but it's leak free and works well. 

I even ran a line from my under-the-sink RO filter in my kitchen to a little spout on laundry sink.

Last weekend I picked up a 20 gallon for my crypt tank and a 90 for my sump. Now I just need to pick up another 40 breeder for my frag tank and the drilling and plumbing the system will begin. 

Here is where I'm at so far, take a look-


Micah


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225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is)

29 Biocube

http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build


Posted By: Pam&Jake
Date Posted: November 29 2011 at 9:06am
Looks like it coming along great!
I sure do wish that we owned our house so we could do the same. :) haha

Jake


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90 Gallon reef



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