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Topic: 60 cube build
Posted By: pgravis
Subject: 60 cube build
Date Posted: December 26 2013 at 7:09pm
Well, this is going to be the start of a very long, slow tank build.   I'm piecing the build together slowly, and hoping it will be full of top notch equipment (which makes it go even slower!).   Anyway, the tank is a 24" cube, 60 gallon rimless tank.   I've never done a rimless tank, so I'm pretty excited to see how it turns out.   It will have a basement sump, and be lit by AI's Hydra.    That's about all I know so far.    I've had the tank about a month now, and my wife got me a stand for christmas, so I'm slowly chipping away at the things I need.   Part of the tank build required me to move and upgrade my dart frog vivarium, so I will include a couple of those pics as well.    

I live in an old victorian house in a part of Ogden that is getting a bit of a rehab lately, so sometimes this entails having a lot of people touring through my house (city people, or people looking to do something similar, or people that appreciate old architecture), so the goal for all my tropical animals was to make them fit in with the aesthetic of the house without being a distraction. Luckily for me, people in the victorian era had an affinity for keeping exotic pets, so its been a great way to learn some history as I explored how I wanted things to look.    

Initially this was easier with the frogs, because I found an old looking greenhouse thing (I don't even know how to describe it, although historically they were called wardian cases).   It was a perfect find, it just required me to build a sealed glass cage inside of it, which I finally accomplished this past week.   It will house three thumbnail dart frogs and a range of tropical plants.   

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A couple pics of the future inhabitants:

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The fish tank has been a little harder to decide how my wife and I want it to look.   In one of our front rooms, we created some industrial shelves, imitating a little of the steampunk victorian look (there is some cool stuff being built out there, google image search steampunk and you will see all sorts of history, and industrial stuff combined together), and decided it would be fun to make the tank a little industrial as well.   Here are the shelves we were basing some of our ideas on:

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Those shelves led me to think about hanging my light from something like this:

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I found a perfect cabinet for a tank stand out in Smith and Edward's army surplus lot, and my wife surprised me with it for christmas.   
So after a long detour to how I got here, here is where the tank stands for now:

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I plan on making a distressed wood drawer for the open slot, and some sort of shelf around the tank to hide the foam it needs to sit on.   It still needs some work and needs to be leveled out, but I'm pretty excited it is sitting where it will stay! I'll try and keep pictures fresh as things move along, but it will be slow!

Cheers,
PJ


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Replies:
Posted By: Fatman
Date Posted: December 26 2013 at 7:17pm
Very cool.Can't wait to see the results.


Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: December 26 2013 at 7:54pm
Oh man, I am excited for this build too and the Wardian Case is gorgeous! 

Mike


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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: December 26 2013 at 7:55pm
Oh, yeah. I think the light on pulleys would look cool too!

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: December 26 2013 at 9:34pm
Thanks for the support! Hope I can meet the expectations.   

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Posted By: Lewy
Date Posted: December 26 2013 at 11:26pm
your own expectations are all you need to meet.  That's the great thing about this hobby, it's very individualistic and personal.  If you like it, that's all that matters. 

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Posted By: Akira
Date Posted: December 28 2013 at 3:20am
Wow that the tank fits better than expected on that stand.


Posted By: Scott B
Date Posted: December 28 2013 at 8:36am
That will be a tank with alot of character! I like it :-)

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Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: December 28 2013 at 2:05pm
I always love to see what you do next:) I bet it will look awesome when you are done!

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: January 20 2014 at 9:54pm
well, I haven't made much (visible) progress on the tank, but the frog tank is coming along. I got it mostly planted in the last week and once I finish the lights and find some bromeliads then the frogs can move and I can turn all my attention to the fish tank.   
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Plants are still rooting, and a couple of them wilted a little, but I think they will pull out of it and take off.   

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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: January 21 2014 at 4:13pm
Looking good!

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Posted By: ksmart
Date Posted: January 21 2014 at 5:23pm
way awesome! I really would like to do a dart frog setup some time.

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: January 21 2014 at 5:41pm
^^ Thanks.   Dart frogs are awesome. It provides me a diversion if my reef isn't going well, and sometimes it's nice to add really nice things to a tank that don't cost a fortune! Utah has some great resources for dart frogs, probably some on this board.   

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Posted By: Deluxe247
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 6:03pm
Very cool. I like it.

You mentioned doing a sump in the basement and after seeing the picture of the tank location I'm curious what your strategy will be for getting the plumbing through the floor. Will you go straight through the floor or try to go down through he wall? I have a 100-year-old bungalow with original hardwood floors over tongue-and-groove decking. I almost killed my drill cutting two holes in the floor for the plumbing, and my wife was a bit distraught, but since the tank is a permanent fixture I figured it was ok to do.

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 7:10pm
I will be going through the wall. I worked way to hard on my floors! The wall is about a foot thick because it used to house a pocket door. The wall has a couple access holes already in it from an old entertainment system from a previous owner. I have a an angle attachment for my drill that I will use to make sure it goes in the right location. I'll make sure to get some pics of the process

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Posted By: Fatman
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 10:29pm
This is getting very interesting. Cutting through a wall at an angle will make for an interesting post. Can't wait to see the finished tank.


Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: January 26 2014 at 9:53pm
Did a little led retrofit on the frog tank for those that are interested (I promise this will become a reef tank build at some point, hopefully soon, I'm getting a fair amount of equipment built up sitting at Aquatic Dreams). They are called Hit lights. They have a waterproof strip light 6000k I think they would make great 'fuge lights. Relatively cheap. I bought 16 feet of leds (4 watts, 260 lumens a foot) and a power supply for 55 bucks on amazon.   



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Posted By: rize2
Date Posted: January 26 2014 at 10:25pm
Originally posted by pgravis pgravis wrote:

They are called Hit lights. They have a waterproof strip light 6000k I think they would make great 'fuge lights. Relatively cheap. I bought 16 feet of leds (4 watts, 260 lumens a foot) and a power supply for 55 bucks on amazon.   
Thats a way good Idea for a fuge. I'm excited to see that steam punk reef all set up.


Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 8:45pm
The date for the cube build has been set. I took the week of spring break off to do some major work on the build and hopefully it will be up and cycling by the end of that week.    Starting to rething the lighting.   Now, I'm considering either the sol or going with the ecotech radians (maybe even the gen3). Anyone have any input?
Anyway, I'm pretty excited to get started.   Also, finally finished up the frog tank. Frogs will move into their new home later this week.   
The next post will have fish stuff, I promise!
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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 8:49pm
That is beautiful!

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Posted By: LaRue
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 9:21pm
Looks awesome


Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: May 17 2014 at 4:40pm
Well, the tank is finally up!! Huge thanks to Ryan and the crew at Aquatic Dreams that helped (I like to think I did more than just get in the way, but truthfully they did pretty much everything, and I couldn't be happier with it) get the tank set up! Final set up is a 60 cube display tank, 90 gallon refugium and a 75 gallon sump.   Anyway on to the pics:

first pic is making the holes in the wall.   The two boxes used to house speaker and phone lines.

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Down through the floor into the basement. Had to work around a cold air return.   Luckily my cousin does HVAC so he can come and fix what I tore apart.

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Rock structure (I'll take credit for this. It was my job while they did the hard work!). Rock is mostly Real Reef Rock, which has a great purple color.    http://realreefrock.com" rel="nofollow - Real Reef

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Sump (75 gal with a huge skimmer!)

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I still need a light. Will probably go with a radion and figure out my final plan for hanging the light.   But at least the cycle is going!!

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Posted By: Trevor40
Date Posted: May 18 2014 at 12:59pm
Awesome build! I love cubes! What kind of corals will you add?

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: May 18 2014 at 1:03pm
Thanks. I want a mixed reef. As far as SPS, I will probably only do stags.   Zoas, acans, euphillia and I have been thinking maybe an elegance.   Don't have a lot of specifics picked out yet, other than the stags/green slimer.   

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Posted By: DLindquist
Date Posted: May 25 2014 at 12:57am
While I can't tell for sure what type of skimmer you are using, I do believe it will operate much more efficiently in about 8-9" of water. Simply place some type of container or other water suitable structure underneath to raise your skimmer out of the water or figure a way to lower the water level in the sump.

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: May 25 2014 at 10:02am
Thanks for the heads up.   I have lowered the sump level
Since this shot was taken on setup day.   

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: May 26 2014 at 10:36pm
haven't done a water test, but I am getting a good diatom bloom in the refugium. Added some lights and chaeto. Also added a sink to the fish basement, next step is ro/di, mixing station and an ato. Still need to add more sand to the fuge as well.   no diatoms in the dt, could be because there is no light on it.   Not sure, but its still early in the game.


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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: May 28 2014 at 9:33pm
Picked up a couple things for the tank today.   A 100 gpd vertex puratek ro/di and a hydrofill ato. Hopefully it will be installed by the end of the weekend.
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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: June 26 2014 at 8:48pm
A lot has been happening to the tank lately.   Added about 5 gallons of rubble to the fuge and I am getting ton of pods, which will be great to feed the tank.

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Also, I tried to organize my plugs and add a work bench to the sump. Still needs a little tweaking, but so far I'm happy with it. Also tore down my 20 long that was withering away and added the fish and coral to the sump for now. I want to add some shy fish in the display first, and give my fuge more time to mature, so the sump was the best option for them.
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Picked this up last week, and finally got it installed tonight. It's maybe a little quirkier than I anticipated, but it's unique and matches the style of the stand! Really glad to finally have it up though. Still playing with settings, but right now it's running the natural
Schedule or whatever they call that one based on the reef and it's about 50% full power.

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Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: June 27 2014 at 3:38pm
That light hanger is freaking awesome! My son would love it!

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: July 01 2014 at 2:41pm
Originally posted by bstuver bstuver wrote:

That light hanger is freaking awesome! My son would love it!


Thanks!

Well, the tank seems pretty stable. I had to switch the sensors out on my hydrofill as they weren't recognizing low water levels. Innovative Marine had pretty stellar customer service.

I am getting a little itchy to get some stuff put in the tank. I have a frag of sunny d palys that I have nursed along in a subpar tank for the past year.   They lost a good bit of color and are mostly brown at this point. Hoping the radion will bring them out of it.    I put together my tentative coral list (I have no illusions that this list is final or that I will actually end up with it all, but it was a good place to start). But here goes, and if I have it out there for all to see, maybe it will make it easier on me to follow through!

SPS:
Pink lemonade
Red planet
Strawberry shortcake
Crybaby jake milli
Green slimer
Blue stag
Oregon blue tort

Zoas:
Fruit loops
Rastas
Blue hornets
Blue macaws
Blondies
La lakers


Orange ricordia
Bright flower nem w/sexy shrimp

Blue/green/bright rainbow acans

Torch (either bright green or gold)
Frogspawn

These are the maybes. I like the look and would love to have them, just don't know if this is the tank for them:
Elegance?
Bubbletip (sunburst, lemon drop, rainbow...one of those would make the decision easier!)?

Hopefully I can start checking things off the list soon

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: July 16 2014 at 7:11pm
Huge thank you to Ryan at Aquatic Dreams for bringing in my dream fish-Red Saddled Anthias.   These guys are one of the biggest reasons I made a 90 gal fuge. Hoping the tank produces enough food to help them along.   Put these guys in last night and today they are pecking at LRS reef frenzy. Keeping my fingers crossed that this is a good sign!!
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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: July 16 2014 at 7:14pm
They are beautiful PJ!

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Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: July 16 2014 at 11:47pm
Beautiful!

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: July 20 2014 at 1:29pm
^thank you
Lost one fish, but the other five are eating very well. They love reef frenzy!

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: July 20 2014 at 2:34pm
Sometimes it seems like for every good thing that happens in this hobby, something equally as bad happens at the same time! After I took those pics earlier, I went down to my fish room to do a water change and found my frostbite clown floating belly up. Ugh. So frustrating. My only thought was that we had a power outage for a couple hours in the middle of the night (according to my clocks and the news, I was unaware of it until I woke up) and something happened to her then.

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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 10:36pm
That sump looks a little familiar haha, sad news on the frostbite though :(

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: July 28 2014 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by tink tink wrote:

That sump looks a little familiar haha, sad news on the frostbite though :(


Great sump, I love it! Thanks, now I need to find a new one once the tank settles down a bit.

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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: July 30 2014 at 1:51am
It was under my 120 for a while. I'd give you one of mine but I don't think I could part with them. I'm sure we could order you another though when your tank is ready.

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Posted By: Jeremyw
Date Posted: July 30 2014 at 3:44pm
Sweet! 

J


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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 2:34pm
How about an update PJ, oh and Happy Birthday!

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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 5:52pm
Thanks! It is time for an update.   I just added a bunch of frags, so tomorrow will be a good day for some pics.


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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: September 16 2014 at 1:06pm
here is a long overdue update.
I've added a lot of coral to the tank.   Right now it has:
Green slimer
california tort
orange setosa
AD crybaby jake milli
tierra del fuego acro -starting to show some great color for such a small frag!
a lemonade acro (can't remember which one)
green (almost joker-ish) acan
a redish rainbowish acan
sunny d palys most have morphed into an interesting look due to my past lighting on an old tank, but the babies are starting to show that classic sunny d look
utter choas
blondies
rastas
daisy dukes
rainbow paly
unknown red/yellow zoo
blue hornets
green implosion paly
candy apple reds
cats eye zoo.

Fish wise, I am down to 2 red striped anthias (most slowly dropped off, then one was beat to death by the dominant anthias) and 1 neon goby. Still wanting more fish, but a little conflicted on what to get.   
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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: March 12 2015 at 6:38pm
added quite a bit and was taking some pics to document some growth, so I figured I would update this.
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Posted By: Jdreeves
Date Posted: March 12 2015 at 7:09pm
looks awesome!


Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: March 12 2015 at 8:41pm
That is looking great PJ. I guess the Red Saddled Anthias didn't do well?

I really like that Borbonius photo. Great job!


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Posted By: pgravis
Date Posted: March 12 2015 at 9:14pm
Thank you both.   Yeah, the red saddled withered away.   Some aggression between them killed some, but the last two were doing great.   Eating well, multiple times a day and then out of the blue I never saw them again! Huge bummer.   I would love to one day be successful with those, but I don't know what it would take that I didn't do.   Fed reef frenzy usually 4-6 times a day, have a huge over sized 'fuge that pumps out pods. anyway, pretty happy with my current group of fish.   

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