Cyano bacteria
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Topic: Cyano bacteria
Posted By: ttreef1.16
Subject: Cyano bacteria
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 10:28am
| How do i get my cyano out break under control? I have a RedSea Max 130D! Please help! |
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Posted By: wickedsnowman
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 10:32am
| You will hear increase flow, feed less, cut lighting, excetera. However in my experience none of those things work. The only thing that's ever gotten rid of cyano for me is chemiclean. |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 12:19pm
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What are your parameters? Specifically phosphate and nitrate? What powerheads do you have? How old are your bulbs? ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 12:37pm
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I had an outbreak in my 38g recently. I did water changes about every 4 days for a couple weeks and got a diamond goby to move my sand,cyano was gone within a few days of the upped water changes and adding the fish... Not saying this is the solution for everyone but I dont like adding extra chemicals unless I absolutely have to. ------------- Jackie Stuver "wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas? I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart |
Posted By: hydro phoenix
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 2:30pm
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chemi clean ------------- recent absurdity..Unicorns have rabies |
Posted By: Boston
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 4:56pm
| I've always had great results with Chemiclean. just make sure to do a 25% water change after using it for 48 hours. |
Posted By: Lewy
Date Posted: July 05 2014 at 8:02pm
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If you don't change enough of your water your skimmer will go nuts. ------------- 40 gal w/ 20 sump |
Posted By: MALLETT
Date Posted: July 06 2014 at 3:43am
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I got mine under control by feeding less and adding reactors posban nitrate sponge carbon and chemipure bag I also power head my display tank rocks to displace debrie ------------- 90 gal cube reef 29 gal bio cube |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: July 07 2014 at 11:22pm
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I have never had to resort to using chemicals. Instead I work on the root cause. See all the natural ways many local hobbyists have reduced and eliminated Cyano by clicking here: http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37106" rel="nofollow - http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37106 Aloha, Mark  |
Posted By: DLindquist
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 6:43am
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After battling a form of Cyano for almost six months, I also resulted to the use of Chemiclean. Almost 1.5 yrs later and my tank remains Cyano free. And the only thing I've changed since the originally outbreak is feeding my fish more food. ------------- A government strong enough to give you everything you want, is powerful enough to take everything you have. |
Posted By: wickedsnowman
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 10:14am
Same thing happened to me. Used it once haven't seen it since. It is also worth mentioning. My water params were near perfect. I had slight nitrates but nothing else. I also have never had a algae problem with this tank. I use rodi water and tried all the things mentioned in this thread. I even tried dosing mb7 and running a few different types of phosphate remover. This bacteria is a natural thing that is in every body of water. I think sometimes it gets a footing in our tanks and it doesn't have to do with anything done wrong. |
DLindquist wrote:Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 12:54am
Good to know that Chemiclean worked like that in two separate tanks - changing my opinion of Chemiclean.  |
Posted By: love2skiutah
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 10:51am
I fought Cyano for 2 months. I syphoned it out every other day, I did water changes, I cut back lighting, I increased flow and surface agitation and got rid of dry foods. It was not getting better for me. I used Chemiclean and 48 hours later, it was all gone. I wish I had just given in and used it, but I was like you and was really hesitant on it. I didn't lose a single fish or coral over it. It's great stuff.
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Posted By: LaRue
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 11:48am
| I have used it in several tanks and have had great luck with all of them. |
Posted By: jgutie38
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 5:59am
| I would not use any chemicals if I was you. When I had an outbreak I reduced my lights and did frequent small water changes, trying to suck out the cyano bacteria manly. It took time but it worked. Also I increased my water flow. |
Posted By: wickedsnowman
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 8:24am
| We add chemicals to our tanks every day. Heck even water is a chemical its chemical make up is h20. Calcium is cac12. Alk mixture na2co3. |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 12:43pm
 I add pounds of chemicals to my body every day and I love it. 
I'm wondering if Chemiclean has been re-formulated and improved over the years. 10-20 years ago we were afraid that it was killing a good percentage of the bacteria population in the biological filtration. Perhaps that's not the case anymore. Aloha |
Posted By: DLindquist
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 6:34pm
Good luck. You'll find it hard maintaining a system without doing so. Alkalinity, calcium, magnesium. ------------- A government strong enough to give you everything you want, is powerful enough to take everything you have. |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 7:05pm
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If all is well in your tank...low phosphates, low nitrates, good random flow, good light, etc, then I would recommend dosing bacteria. Over time, bacteria competes, and you end up with dominant strains. Often cyano is the dominant strain. Dosing new bacteria will help outcompete the cyano. Regularly adding fish and corals will do the same. I would rather have bacteria competing than killing it myself. Who knows what else chemiclean harms. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 8:50pm
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I agree with Nikki. This thread has generated a pretty good discussion, but I just realized something! We failed to ask some of our typical questions to get background that will help us offer a tank specific solution. (May also address a problem waiting in the wings, such as other potential nuisance algae problems.) So here they are: How long has the tank been set up? What is the filtration? Alk and Ca numbers? (if known) May we see a pic? (A pic really is worth a thousand words. )Mahalo, Mark |
Posted By: wickedsnowman
Date Posted: July 11 2014 at 8:35am
| I agree we need to know if your parameters are out of whack. Because if you do have too much nitrogen compounds in the tank that can definitely cause it. The only time I would use Chemiclean is if you knew your tank was completely stable people say that it kills off the good bacteria along with the bad which I am sure it is somewhat true but is it killed a lot I think your cycle would start over and you would have an algae bloom which has never happened to me |
Posted By: love2skiutah
Date Posted: July 11 2014 at 10:57am
Would MB7 be considered what you're referring to? When I had my Cyano outbreak, someone told me to dose it, but I never did.
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: July 11 2014 at 11:58am
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There are a ton of different products. I've only used Prodibio. I start with all dry rock and sand, so I have to dose bacteria for a while otherwise cyano takes over. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |