Reef Safe Butterfly fish...
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Topic: Reef Safe Butterfly fish...
Posted By: peiji
Subject: Reef Safe Butterfly fish...
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 5:40pm
I've read that the Copperbanded Butterfly fish is reef safe. Is that true as in it
won't bother snails, crabs, clams and corals? Does anyone keep these in a
reef tank with success?
------------- Jared Page Highland, UT Graphic Designer
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Posted By: ssilcox
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 5:49pm
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Say bye bye to those cute little feather dusters though...
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Posted By: peiji
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 5:50pm
I don't have any. Wish I did though.
------------- Jared Page Highland, UT Graphic Designer
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Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 9:58pm
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I've tried Coral Banded's twice with no luck. Make sure at the LFS that they will take food. The second one I got was very healthy, and like SSilcox said ate all of my little feather dusters and a bunch of other stuff off my live rock. When all the food was gone he starved to death. This process only took a week in my well established 180 gallon tank.
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Posted By: coreyk
Date Posted: August 11 2005 at 12:21am
I keep a big fat Copper Band .. he eats brine and is VERY happy. I have
had him for over a year. I dont think I have any little feather
dusters, but everything else is just fine.
I have always wondered about the http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=1853 - Yellow Pyramid Butterfly
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Posted By: centipededesign
Date Posted: August 11 2005 at 12:00pm
hey,
if you cant get a CBB to eat (like mine) you can just go buy clams @
albertsons, crack them and set them in the tank. Mine went crazy over
those. mine eats nothing but whats on the rocks, and clams. but I can
trick him by putting cut up fish in a clam shell. what a dummy.
he used to pick polyps off my nepthia, but now that I feed him enough he
doesnt bother anything.
If you get one and he gets white dots all over his fins just keep the water
quality high and keep him fed. That passes, or at least mine did. And it
didnt spread to other fish, i think its specific to those. corey might know.
good luck,
ryan
------------- 90Gallon Mixed Reef, 2x250 14k, ASM, 10G fuge, 20G sump, 2x 1100 rio seios. Kaysville, 801.603.6588.
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Posted By: coreyk
Date Posted: August 11 2005 at 1:16pm
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I agree .. mine had the 'white fuzzy dots' ... they went away after
about a month. I'll have to pickup a clam or two as a treat for mine!
One of my favorite fish!
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Posted By: bhaight
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 5:06pm
I bought my CBB about a month ago. When I was looking at him in the pet store I asked them to feed him for me and he ate the brine shrimp without hesitation. I bought him and put him in my tank where I was having an Aptasia outbreak. He is doing great but I don't see him eat the brine, flake, or cyclopeze foods that I put in the tank. Much of the Aptasia has disappeared and also the feather dusters.
I'll have to try the clam idea though.
------------- Bill Haight
You'll need a bigger boat.
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 8:07pm
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I say Reef Safe, buy it.
Adam
------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun!
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Posted By: peiji
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 9:45pm
is a 65 g tank too small? I think I may be getting too many fish anyway. I'll
have a couple of maroon clowns, a blue tang, a yellow tang and a flame
angel.
------------- Jared Page Highland, UT Graphic Designer
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Posted By: peiji
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 9:46pm
also, if it eats small clams, will it bother my maxima clams, etc?
------------- Jared Page Highland, UT Graphic Designer
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Posted By: centipededesign
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 10:43pm
I dont know, corey's doesnt eat his clam... They are delicate IMO, And if
you have fish that will pick on it like a tang that was added before I would
forget about it,
but thats just my opinion.
i think their spirits get crushed easily.
ryan
------------- 90Gallon Mixed Reef, 2x250 14k, ASM, 10G fuge, 20G sump, 2x 1100 rio seios. Kaysville, 801.603.6588.
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Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 11:28pm
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Adam B, which LFS do you work for?
Adam Wrote: "...buy it."
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 11:39pm
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Will- sorry let me rephrase that. I say Reef Safe, steal it.
Adam
------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun!
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Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 2:00am
Would you put that in your pocket, or your drink cup that you were carrying?
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Posted By: Crazy Tarzan
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 9:08am
I find it useful to go to the fish store with a super big gulp, 64 oz insulated mug...
------------- Was that in there yesterday? Casper--WY windier than ?
Down to a 20, soon to double or nothing
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Posted By: Mantella20
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 6:44pm
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I have a copper banded in my 125 reef living fat and happy with a few hawaiian feather dusters, and I still have a bunch of small LR dusters on my rocks. He has been in my tank for 3 or 4 months now, and the only problem i have is the yellow tang is dominant over him, and sometimes tries to show him who is boss. He was very difficult at first when I got him, but within a month he was healthy and now eats fine. he eats aipitasia (totally cured my tank of them), brine shrimp, and he loves the "angel and butterfly" frozen food you can get at your LFS. He really enjoys the mysis shrimp, which are one of the ingredients in the Angel butterfly food. He has even taken flake food a few times. Very beautiful fish, and if you can work it, get one. I think they would do best in a larger tank though, imho.
Forgot to mention, 2 months now with a crocea clam, and he hasn't picked at it once.
Ed Parker
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Posted By: acerob
Date Posted: September 07 2005 at 2:24pm
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how are Heniochus Butterfly's??
My son wants me to get a Morish Idol, I don't think that I want to take on that big of a challenge. I think I could fool him with a Heniochus thou.
------------- Highland, UT
12g Nano
90g Reef
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: September 07 2005 at 5:13pm
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A Heniochus is about a million times easier to keep. But they will often pick at small zoanthids or some acro polyps. Kind of risky.
Adam
------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun!
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Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: September 07 2005 at 10:43pm
Adam Blundell wrote:
A Heniochus is about a million times easier to keep. But they will often pick at small zoanthids or some acro polyps. Kind of risky.
Adam
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You forgot to say "Buy it anyway."
I have seen many in reef tanks, but I suppose it depends on what kinds of corals you have and how important they are to you.
I'm with your son. I'd like to have a Morish Idol Myself.
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Posted By: acerob
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 11:10am
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I think that they are awesome, but I don't want the death of such a beautiful fish hanging over my head. Maybe if I could find a TR one. Plus all of the MI at the LFS are huge, I'd like on just a little bit smaller.
for the most part I just have a bunch of Zoo's, mushrooms and frogspawn, you think any of those would be a problem w/Heniochus??
------------- Highland, UT
12g Nano
90g Reef
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Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 11:48am
acerob wrote:
I think that they are awesome, but I don't want the death of such a beautiful fish hanging over my head. |
That's my problem too.
As for Heniochus, I think the only problem could possibly be the Zoo's. Otherwise I don't think they would bother leathers or 'Shrooms. But it depends on the fish too. Some would never touch your zoo's, other might.
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Posted By: Suzy
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 11:58am
Do you think in our lifetime we will see a TR Moorish Idol? That would be
the ultimate in cool.
No, the ultimate in cool would be a CB...
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 12:10pm
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There is a project going on to produce captive reared Moorish Idols right now. They are collecting Idol larvae and bringing them to shore and raising them in tanks.
But still a few years away from being commercially available.
Adam
------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun!
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Posted By: Suzy
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 12:16pm
CR?
I have to think about this for a bit. Would taking the larvae from the
ocean increase it's survivablilty? It wouldn't have as many predators,
right?
Would it be better than leaving them in the ocean and then taking them
when they are juveniles?
Hmmm...
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Posted By: Mantella20
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 12:08am
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from breeding frogs, the individuals who have never seeen the wild seem to be a whole lot easier to breed. They don't know their is a whole other world out there, and the small tank is all they know. Perhaps then that being the world they know, that is the world they will breed in. This is just what I have noticed with my poison dart frogs, whom are very difficult to breed depending on species.
ed parker
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