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Posted: December 20 2004 at 9:41pm |
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If I want to replace a cracked brace 55 with a clear acrylic brace ... will weldon 16 work ok ? TIA!
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Posted: December 20 2004 at 10:09pm |
I wanted to do the same thing on my 125 gal and didn't completely trust the weld-on bonding the acrylic to the nylon/ABS/PVC(?) of the top brace. So I glued (weld-on 16) and screwed (#8 nylon machine screws/nuts).
(sorry for the bad pic, it's dark right now and my camera doesn't focus as well in the dark... and quit looking at the salt creep  )
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Posted: December 20 2004 at 10:33pm |
That is perfect .. Thanks Jon. You are a DIY superman! 
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Posted: December 26 2004 at 9:08pm |
I used weldon 16 on my 210 works fine but the 2 screws isnt a bad idea...
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Posted: December 26 2004 at 9:12pm |
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cool .. thanks eric!
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 9:48pm |
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Hey ... I used weldon16 to glue the brace in.... but it didnt hold? Any ideas why?
I didnt use the nylon screws, because i didnt want them sticking up.
would it be a big deal if the center brace was not replaced on a 55g? would it bow at all?
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 9:51pm |
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I had one that broke when full, and it bowed a lot. Ended up
chucking the tank because I didn't trust it. Wish I would have
thought of the screw thing.
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 9:55pm |
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Faxon, was that was on a 55?
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 10:01pm |
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Vidar just PM'd and called me. The brace popped off one side, so I told him to use screws if he feels that it should be braced, otherwise let it be. It's not bowing that much and most 55's don't have a brace anyway.
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 10:04pm |
Thanks for the input Mark .. i feel horrible that the weldon 16 didn't hold.  I should have water tested it! Hind site is 20/20.
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 10:09pm |
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It's bowing about a 1/2 inch in the middle (difference from the end), is that ok?
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 10:13pm |
It's bowing about a 1/2 inch in the middle (difference from the end), is that ok?
IMO, no it's not ok. I would try to brace it. I used nylon screws and nuts to secure it. Didn't trust the weld-on all alone.
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 10:14pm |
Thanks Jon ... I was just going to say the same thing
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 10:19pm |
Better safe than sorry 
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 10:26pm |
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Ok, so should I drain most of the water tonight and brace it later
before adding the water again? The tank is still good is it not?
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 11:00pm |
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Mine was on a 55, and it bowed about 1/2 inch. I ran it for
awhile, but it just seemed like too big of a risk. If I would
have had a solid fix (screws) I would have kept the tank, but a new 55
is not tons of money (compared to all the water damage 55g's can do,
not to mention loss of livestock). I would find a good solid fix
that will not allow the tank to bow, or just replace it with a new one.
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Posted: April 04 2005 at 2:59am |
When I replaced my center brace I wanted to be sure the weldon 16 would hold before I removed it. I took a scrap piece of acrylic and one of the lights the tank came with and glued them together. 24 hours later I tryed to pull them apart and ended up pulling the light apart. The light did not break where it was bonded but about an inch away where the plastic was thinner. This just proved to me that the acrylic and the bond was as strong or stronger then the plastic used to brace the tank in the first place. When I bonded mine I could see the two plastics melt into each other. I also twisted the two pieces together to make the plastics bond even better. And I decided to use 2 braces just to be on the safe side. So far the tank has been filled and running without any mechanical problems for over 6 months.
In this hobby the tank is one of the cheapest parts especially when dealing with 55 gal and under. If I had to do it all over again I would buy a predrilled tank and not even worry about the brace or overflow at all.
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Posted: April 05 2005 at 9:40pm |
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I replaced the center brace on my all ready filled 46 Gallon bowfront
using the new silcone/Epoxy called "AMAZING GOOP" from Home depot. I
put in 2 Stainless self tappers on each side. Worked great for me!
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Posted: April 06 2005 at 1:02am |
Thanks Everyone ... I looked at it and it didnt even look like the weldon worked. Arrrg!  I decided that my brothers turtle needed a new home more than I needed to mess with the brace more. LOL!
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Posted: April 06 2005 at 1:09am |
Coreyk, Vidar came by today to get some sand for the new tank. He is speechless regarding your concern and caring that he get a good tank. My hat is off to you, my friend.
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