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    Posted: December 18 2013 at 9:47pm
Nikki and All,
Here is a picture of my sick clown fish.  Her fins look wilted or eaten away and she looks bloated.  I do not believe it is from other aggressive fish and her behavior has been abnormal.  She always eats a lot and when not eating hangs at the back of the tank in the anemone.  She is not eating anything (tried pellets and frozen) and has been hovering in the center of the tank.  I moved her to my sump for now.  I welcome any input.
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What are your water parameters?   specifically nitrates?
150 gal reef with 50 gal sump. Reef Octopus DCS-200 Skimmer. AI Sol Blues.
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that looks like fin rot. You'll have to get some meds and quarantine it for a bit. Reefdup should know what to use. You could try a freshwater dip but reefdup may know a better solution.
 
this is probably caused by a fungal or bacterial infection.
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Holy moly - that was nothing like what I imagined when you described it to me. Honestly, I've never seen fin damage presented like that before.

Good news:
No visible evidence of active serious infection (red streaks)
No visible evidence of velvet/brookynella
No sign of lymphocystis

Complete guess here, but that looks like aggression (other fish attacking the fins) followed by a possible secondary infection (hard to tell on a red fish). The fins look physically deformed, and the white tissue may just be dying tissue along the edges.

Considering how healthy the fish looks otherwise, just secluding him from other fish may help. If you decided to treat him, I'd probably get him going in hyposalinity to speed his recovery along with some Furan-2 (gram negative treatment).

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I have Furan 2 in my fish med kit here if you need some.

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It is so nice to have all your help!  I ran down and borrowed Furan 2 from Kevin. I have her in my sump now and I am going to try to get quarantine bucket set up real quick tonight.

PH is around 8, Nitrate is 0 in tank this clown is in.  I did find my other (fish only tank) is 10-20 in Nitrate so I am guessing I need to get more macro going in that sump.  Water change was less than 2 weeks ago.  I am probably going to check Mg, Ca, & Kh after I get quarantine going to get her isolated as soon as I can.   I will let you know how it goes.  Thanks again, Brandyn


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How low should I take the salinity and in what timeframe?  Should I do a RO/DI drip to slowly lower salinity?  Also, is a little cooler or warmer on the water temp better for sick fish, or should I do my best to keep it as close as possible to temp it was in?

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There probably isn't a need to go too low on salinity...just whatever you are comfortable with.

The fish is placed into a treatment tank by itself, and over a few days, the salinity is lowered (assuming a start of 35 ppt) down to 14 ppt (or higher in your case). You can drop the salinity down 5 ppt per day. Since the internal salinity of a fish is 11-12 ppt, the fish has to work less for osmoregulation. This allows the fish to recover from any shipping/stress injuries faster. Antibiotics also work better at lower salinities. After treatment, the salinity is raised ~2ppt per day until back to ~35ppt.
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