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    Posted: February 22 2005 at 3:30pm
I bought one of these at F4U couple weeks ago (common names include stuff like hi-fin red-banded yellow-nosed shrimp goby).  Seems to be doing ok but its a VERY scared little fish.  Thus, it is very hard to feed.  My water jet goes in one direction, making a toilet-bowl-like swirl and my live rock is built up on the back wall.  The goby seems to have found a home in the back.  When I place flake food in the tank, I have to get it just right to catch the current so it will come to the goby or within striking distance.  Otherwise, it just floats to the ground while the goby watches it.  And every time I so mach as twitch or move my hand, it darts away.  Very frustrating.  I'm wondering how long it takes these little gobies to get used to their surroundings and come out of hiding or if there is anything else I can to do feed it more effectively.  I just worry that if I get some other fish in here that is not shy, goby is going to have even more trouble getting food.  Anyone have any experience with them? 

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In my tanks I do the best I can to ensure optimum water conditions and good nutrition for the fish.... but after that i let nature take its course ( except my cortez ray that demands to be hand fed)

I very rarely loose fish or shrimp even though i have some "non reef safe" individuals amongst the mix, IF your tank is doing well your fish will adapt and find its niche within the community.

I have a small gobie as well who lives with a pistol shrimp that I rarely see eating. but he has been in there for 3 months and seems to be growing rather fast.

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How long has the tank been set up, how much live rock and how much other life (both plant and animal) is in the aquarium?

As in many hobbyists tanks, it is very likely the environment is very different from the gobies original home. This is a stressful situation and anything you can do to reduce stress, even leaving lights off most of the day for a while, will help.

Show and/or tell your tank and we may be able to offer help in adding the biodiversity that makes things "happy to call it home".

And btw, I would never have just one powerhead in a tank that makes the water go in a continuous circle. I always use at least two powerheads aimed diagonally at each other from opposite corners. They send water up along the surface to where the streams ripple the surface, then hit each other and go down in an everchanging swirl pattern. This makes two swirls that change from moment to moment. I've found this to be the most effective circulation for the least amount of $$.

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Well, its a 12g JBJ nanocube.  I have about 10 lbs of live rock.  There is an assortment of small hermit crabs and snails (about a dozen total, alltogether).  There is a very gregarious peppermint shrimp in the tank (solved the aptasia problem) and a couple feather dusters (5 that I can see, small ones that came with the rock).  I recently bought a very small sample of bright green wavy star polyps and a very small sample of brown (green in the midddle) button polyps (maybe 5 total polyps, small ones).  I have one snowflake polyp that is now splitting into three (two tiny ones next to it).  I started with live sand as well from MSM.  The tank has been set up for 4 months.  The shrimp was added first, at about 2 months.  The goby was just added two weeks ago along with a small red crab that I either can never find or is lodged above my filter media in the back of the tank (guess it likes it up there).  I'm trying to take it very slowly.  For the first three months there was nothing in the tank but crabs, snails, live sand and rock and the shrimp (added at month 2).  There may be a mantis in there somewhere too. 
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I'm reading along following your description and it's sounding okay but still quite immature and then you throw in this
mantis shrimp... Have you heard it

Oh my goodness. They scare the st out of most animals,(and many hobbyists) especially a goby that has to share the benthic zone (around the bottom and under rocks)

In a tank that size I would remove the mantis before adding anything else, otherwise the mantis could eventually make itself the sole occupant.

What depth is the LS and what's this filter media you mentioned in the back of the tank?
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I guess I was in denial about the mantis.  I took one out back at month 2 or so and thought all was well, til I heard it again . .. . CLICK!  Like marble on glass.  Which elicited various epithets from me cuz I didn't want to have to tear everything apart again.  But I see what you are saying.  I guess I didn't think of it that way.  The goby does seem to be getting a little less shy every week.  But then some days, I so much as look in its direction and it darts away to its hole.  The media I have is what comes with the tank.  The first bin has a sponge thing in it, the second has activated charcoal, and then theres a half dozen or so bioballs, about 1.5 inches in diameter.  I also tucked my heater back there (recommended for these kinds of tanks to save room).  The live sand is 1.5-2 inches, shallower in front and deeper in back.  Guess I need to go mantis hunting again . . . it really hasn't caused much trouble at all so far.  I haven't seen anything go missing.  And the peppermint shrimp seems fine (extremely hungry - goes after flakes like crazy, but fine otherwise).

Edit - oh, and I have a couple bubbles of bubble algea too (red and green), so I guess the water is ok.  I also have a refractometer, so the salinity is ok, and a big test kit and all looks well chemically.  And I have tons of amphipods, copepods and everythign else creepy crawly in my sand.



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"Mantis denial" Another symptom of the addiction.
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Oh, I'm sure I'm not the only one suffering from mantis denial . ..
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