workhorse 7 ballast

somthing to think about with the workhorse ballasts they are electronic wich means they adjust to what bulbs you run. wich means a workhorse 7 is rated at 220w if you run 4 20w bulbs on it the bulbs will not just change to 55w each. the balast will not overrun the bulbs it will run them more efficently wich means max preformance and max life. But on the other hand if you put 2 110w vho's on it eventhough you are not supposed to it will run them optimal because it adjusts. But watch your heat on the ballast because if it gets to hot you shouldn't be running it the way you are.

So by saying that the workhorse will underpower the bulb is false. they run as far as 110w vho's go just as good ase Ice Caps do.( I can say this because Eric and I did alot of testing on lighting every different way to hook up ballasts for best needs for our customers.



Ryan Willden you told me that you quit going to MSM about 5 months before Marcus started there. I would personaly say that the main reason imo on why people of this forem don't go to MSM is the because of the trash that people talk on them with no reason. I could name I am sure a hand full of people whom I don't really like and that I would never buy anything from. And I am sure that there are people who would never buy anything from me. But it is for personal reasons. And most of us have more respect for people than to trash talk them or there bussiness expecialy on an open forem. If you have a problem with someone or somthing they have done that is what the PM button is for. And yes I may be called a hipacrit for posting this on an open forem insted of calling you or PMing you. but you have alredy made it other peoples bussiness.

plus by PMing you can talk directly to the person and get it resolved without making anyone look bad because usualy people are not mad at eachother for ever. And you don't look stupid or feel like an idiot when you decide that friendship is worth more than how bright your lights are.

I am not saying that everyone should have the same opinion but I am saying it wouldn't be worth it to me to fight over.

And by the way I am an kind of an electrical wizard so if anyone needs any help feel free to contact me. just have you credit cards ready jk. I am allways here to help and if it has to do with wiring I can get it figured out.


Eric what lights are you talking about. Are they new and if so what are they and do they look good.

Um........ my 20k xm bulbs look great!!!  Looks like i walked right into a battle field ( starts running for the bunkers)

Ryan Willden, you are the one that started this argument by saying, "That is exactly the reply I would expect from you." You are correct about me saying that I not going to post anymore a while back, then I got many PM's and phone calls asking me why I stopped so I started again. Well, I am only here to help people, not myself. I have no reason to continue on this forum if I am going to be treated this way. Good luck to all...

I think it would be a good idea if personal problems were left off of this site. Because I think people should form there own opinions on subjects and not have to wade through all the bull**** and bickering that we have portrayed on this thread. I personaly appologize for even hafting to read my coments to Ryan Willden. this doesn't mean I don't feel the way I do. I think that the way Ryan Willden and even I portrayed ourselves is very poor at best and hopfully he relizes this as I have. Thanks Ryan Williams

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BTW, I found a thread at reefcentral with quotes from fulham engineering regarding doing this.  http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=168784  Here's the good stuff if you don't want to trudge through the reefcentral thread:

*quote*

Lon,

All VHO lamps operating mA current specification is the same. On a magnetic
ballast that current is 1500mA. There is no high frequency electronic
ballast operating specifications at this time, but you will received the
same light output as the 1500mA magnetic when operating at aprox. 1300mA
with an electronic system.

The WH7 ballast will not provide enough current when operating 2 VHO lamps
wired in parallel, if you try this approach you will be providing the
correct current to operate two HO lamps to your VHO lamps and you will be
under driving the application defeating the purpose for using VHO lamps.

We
have not approved the operation of two VHO lamps in series and we can not
comment on what the effect on the system maybe,

anyone who uses this
approach is doing so at their own risk and voiding our product warranty as well as the product UL safety certification.

Please refer to the Fulham catalog for lamp/ballast combinations that are
listed for our products and listed with UL for safety certification.

Tom Woods
Fulham Engineering

*end quote*

Jon I totaly understand what you are saying. I actually did not state how to wire the ballast because there is fact and also opinion in what I have posted. So I don't think it would be right to give out the info on wiring and why it should work without any flaws. + I am a slow typer thats why I allways tell people to give me a ring.


Also if you up the guage of wire about 2 inches out of the ballast It can cary more current wich should help in underpowering problems. It would be just like an amp inside of them is usually about 14g wire or leads up to the terminal but out of the terminal if you only run 14g wire you will underpower the speakers. but if you run 10g you will let the energy provided by the amp make it to its destination without much loss.
Whould you agree this may be a simular issue


Marcus, Ryan and Ryan... If I have a recall vote I vote to keep you all here... I have a role for you in my next Terminator movie.

I also am overjoyed that you say that. And can I play the Terminator I will do a great job.

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Also if you up the guage of wire about 2 inches out of the ballast It can cary more current wich should help in underpowering problems. It would be just like an amp inside of them is usually about 14g wire or leads up to the terminal but out of the terminal if you only run 14g wire you will underpower the speakers. but if you run 10g you will let the energy provided by the amp make it to its destination without much loss.
Whould you agree this may be a simular issue

It may be similar, but I don't know, that's why I'm asking questions.

I am from the future and I'm looking for Sacramento.  Do you know how to get to Sacramento?  Oh what a circus that is!

Try:

Commercial Lighting Supply Inc 3455 S 500 West SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84115-4234 view map | add to my address book

(801) 262-0888

I've heard they carry fulham ballasts, but it's saturday and they're not open to call.  Fulham makes the WH7, which is a very good, inexpensive (approx. $35) electronic ballast.

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Is Randy "bad mouthing" me behind my back!
Oh my goodness!
And I thought he was complaining just to me, about others!

Regarding the flaring tempers here in this thread, I've been there and back. It's not pretty.

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