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Posted: February 15 2004 at 6:18am |
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Posted: February 15 2004 at 7:21am |
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Is your tank cycled yet? What are the water parameters?
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Posted: February 15 2004 at 7:31am |
Most likely, with all due respect, you are not prepared to keep the jelly. Take it back to the LFS as soon as you can IMO. Jelly fish are NOT compatible with a standard reef setup. Actually, they are not reef compatible at all. They are generally a deeper water animal and the survival rate in a home aquarium is dismal. What store sold you a Jelly? 
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Posted: February 15 2004 at 8:24am |
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Jelly fish are NOT compatible with a standard reef setup. Actually, they are not reef compatible at all. They are generally a deeper water animal and the survival rate in a home aquarium is dismal. |
Hmmm, disagree here. I think Jellies are found all over reef systems, and I wouldn't hesitate to put them in my tank. Only a couple of us have had them, but we have always loved them. Mark had this big blue jelly for a while that was awesome. Cassiopea jellies are quite common, and people consider them reef safe.
I do agree that their survival rate is dismal, but then again 90% of our fish don't live a year either.
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Posted: February 15 2004 at 8:43am |
Hhhhmmm.... perhaps I am misinformed. I will read up on it and re-evaluate my opinion. Any time I have seen jellies they have been in more open water, even when I lived in Florida. True, it depends on the species and some will move to shallower water at times, but I never noticed them swimming along a reef. I thought that they require special conditions not often found in a home reef, and I cannot remember their food source. I know that my reef is not suitable for one and I am not ready to host one. I have considered a jelly tank at some point in the future, but I have much to learn first.
I did see the most beautiful jelly display at the Texas State Aquarium in Corpus Christi. They had several varieties there and it was incredible to see. If you are ever in the neighborhood...
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Posted: February 15 2004 at 9:08am |
Somehow that not-reef compatible doesn't fly with me. I've seen so many on reefs, and even been stung by them while diving in lagoons. Food source is a big deal with jellies if you ask me. I think people can't keep them because of lack of food. But if you are one those many people in our club culturing rotifers or phyto then I think you would be fine.
Also, I think the other big jelly killers are powerheads and overflows. That, may be a great reason to not buy one. Most of us just have too much thrashing and motion for the jellies.
So I guess I should say that I wouldn't recommend buying them for your reef tank, not because of damage to your reef, but because of damage to the jelly.
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Posted: February 15 2004 at 9:19am |
OK, spent some time researching... I found a few good links and ywo of the easiest reads are http://www.aquarium-design.com/jellyfish.htm and http://jellieszone.com/jelliesportal.htm
Live plankton is a good food source for most but live baby brine may work as well. Some are also photosynthetic. The biggest concern to me regarding jellies in a home aquarium is that most often require cold temperatures at 50-60 degrees. This is how I remember them and why I said that you won't often find them on a reef. But, don't always believe what you read. Maybe it is possible to keep one responsibly. It appears that the cassiopea MAY be an exception.
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I do agree that their survival rate is dismal, but then again 90% of our fish don't live a year either. |
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Posted: February 15 2004 at 9:19am |
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Most public aquariums keep Jelly Fish in cylindrical tanks so they don't get stuck in the corners of square tanks. Sometimes they get in a corner and can't figure out that the they need to get out.
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Posted: February 16 2004 at 8:13am |
Adam Blundell wrote:
Carl wrote:
Jelly fish are NOT compatible with a standard reef setup. Actually, they are not reef compatible at all. They are generally a deeper water animal and the survival rate in a home aquarium is dismal. |
Hmmm, disagree here. I think Jellies are found all over reef systems, and I wouldn't hesitate to put them in my tank. Only a couple of us have had them, but we have always loved them. Mark had this big blue jelly for a while that was awesome. Cassiopea jellies are quite common, and people consider them reef safe.
I do agree that their survival rate is dismal, but then again 90% of our fish don't live a year either.
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Although I agree that Jellies are sometimes found in reefs and maybe reef compatible. I don't think they are reef aquarium compatible (except for Cassiopeia andromeda the Upside Down Jellyfish). Jelly fish usually need a cylindrical tank with a very low waterflow. Most reef aquariums are a square aquarium with high waterflow.
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Posted: February 16 2004 at 11:25am |
Jake,
In a later post I did say that I wouldn't recommend them for the reasons of high water flow and dangers impellers and things like that. I agree with what you just said.
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Posted: February 16 2004 at 12:10pm |
True,
Then I agree with what you said.
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Posted: February 16 2004 at 1:07pm |
I agree that Jake agrees with Adam who agrees to disagree.
I like jelly on toast!
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Posted: February 16 2004 at 1:41pm |
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Ohh, pleeeze. Lets not start that eating thing again guys.
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Posted: February 17 2004 at 2:50am |
ok sorry i am so sorry for not replying. i wanted to come in here yeterday but i cant get into the site.
1st. my tank is fully cycled
2nd. the parameters are fine
3rd. i do not live in states so even if i said the shop of the name which i dunnoe either it serves no use and they would never take back sold pets. they're afraid of diesease and stuff
4th. it's a really common jellyfish. like a totally white one with some spongy legs at the bottom really most common one. i was told there are also blue ones.
5th i dun have a reef tank it's a FO tank. but i'm afraid it'll hurt my fish i got 3 chromis. and my brother bought a clark's clownfish and this jellyfish without my permission so i guess my tank is overcrowded now. it's a 16 gallons tank.but i'm just afraid it'll hurt my other chromis. thought it did not do anything i saw it got stuck to my filters a few times. so i pushed it away. my brother then bought this new pump so something that sucks water through a sponge. i really don't know what to do now. i cant keep it neither can i return it....
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Posted: February 19 2004 at 6:11pm |
A sponge around the intake of all power heads is the best thing you could do for the Jellyfish.
It will probably live for a while if you can feed it. It likes really small live zooplankton. Thats the microscopic bugs in the ocean. If you can't collect or grow zooplankton (rotifers are good), find some frozen meaty fish food (brine shrimp) and pulverize it by smashing it while it's frozen and again as it thaws. Your fish will eat the larger particles and the jelly will catch the smaller particles. Target feed the Jelly if you can. Target feed means to squirt the cloudy pulverized food at it's tentacles.
I doubt that it will hurt your fish. Healthy fish do not usually get caught by inverts, and I include anemones in that statement. 
Healthy Jellyfish on the other hand, are often caught by coral.  I had a bluish colored common jelly that was doing very well, even growing larger tentacles, until it got caught by a large button polyp/Palythoa. It was caught for at least eight hours and did not survive after I carefully extricated it from the offending coral!
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Posted: February 23 2004 at 3:42am |
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thanks alot. i hope it doesnt die soon i bought the sponge to help it. also when i got it from my brother he bought the jelyfish food so i guess food is settled though very much that i hope i could return it which i cant it seems to be fine living in my tank so i guess i'll keep it. and yeah it often gets stuck at the upper end of the filter so i had to wrap it with some kinda white sponge from the top filter. it's doing fine now atleast but the fishes seems to be scared of it. they would avoid it when it comes near. that gives me this feeling that the jellyfish must have been mean. anyway my chromis are doing really well. the color seems to be really pale though . sometimes a little dark green. it doesnt look really attractive but i still love them. well it would be better if they could enhance the color. but does any1 knows how ?
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Posted: February 23 2004 at 7:10am |
Great Salt Lake Brine Shrimp! 
Since you aren't in Utah or near the Dead Sea(I assume BS are there too ), just buy frozen Brine Shrimp, the pigments in Brine Shrimp transfer into good coloration in fish.
Also, if you feed green and red algae in their diet like Nori (Fruit Rollups for fish!) they will do better. A friend had a pale white Yellow Tang that acquired normal coloration when he made sure his flake food had plenty of green flakes. The green flakes are usually Spirulina, a very common algae made into fish food. In fact, for flake food I use 75% Spirulina.
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Posted: February 23 2004 at 11:37pm |
ohh ok i got frozen brine shrimp, frozen mysis shrimp and this fish pellets. it's this really weird brand from chin i guess hmm let me read the ingredients
fish protein , quality white fish meal , krill , carotene , spirulina , shrimp meat , yolk meal , algae meal , wheat germ , dried yeast , soybean meal , wheat flour , antarctic shrimps , protease , stablle multi vitamin and mineral, lecithin , immune substance , citric acid , calcium , enzyme , organic minerals vegetable extracts.
it's kinda cheap like 40g for U$2. so is these good or shouls i get those that you mentioned ?
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Posted: February 23 2004 at 11:38pm |
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*chin = china
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Posted: February 23 2004 at 11:39pm |
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shouls = should
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I'm dead. My brother got me into deep trouble. he's a jerk. he bought a jellyfish. it is so terrible. 
i think it'll die very soon. what im more concern is that it'll give out poison. and it is constantly stucking at the filter 
so i had to off the power now. untill i get a divider to divide the filter away from the jellyfish. 