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    Posted: June 10 2005 at 8:44am
I just upgraded my VHO lights to MH. Before, I was running 300 W of VHO.
So, now I'm running about 200W of SuperActinic VHO and 300W of MH. I just
got my electrical bill and it was an increase of $40 over last month. And that
only included about 2 weeks at the most of my new lighting system. Is it
possible that my bill will increase $50 to $80 a month just by running my
new tank? I guess I should add I'm also running a return pump which I didn't
have before. If that's the case, I think I'm in trouble.
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I worry about this.  I'm trying to calculate the electric bill on my next tank and I'm scared.  I'll be watching this thread to see what others say (and crossing my fingers).

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I doubt the new lights would raise your bill that much in one month. But I guess it just depends on how much your paying for electricity. It seems that electric companies charge per kilowatt hours. So lets say it costs you 5 cents per kilowatt hour. So take your light wattage (500) and times that by the number of hours you used in a day (say 10). That would give you 500 * 10 = 5000 watt hours used per day. Convert to kilowatt hours and you get 5 kilowatt hours per day. Figure out the cost of that -- 5 kwh * 5 cents per kwh = 25 cents per day. Times that over the whole month (30 days) and you have spent a wopping $7.50 a month. So just figure out how much your electricity costs from your electric bill and how many hours you use your stuff and you can figure out how much your lights or whatever else will cost in a day or month.

p.s. If you don't want to do the math then use this calculator -- Electricity cost calculator

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awesome. Thanks.
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Oh, one other thing, if you cant figure out the watts of a paticular device you can figure out the watt usage by doing
-- watts = volts * amps

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Mine went up about $17 and I increased my wattage by 100. One thing
to also consider is, did you start using an air conditioner, or swamp
cooler? What other power items did you add?

Fish tanks are an expensive hobby They cost more than high speed
internet, Satellite TV, and cell phones in power consumption alone.

That doesn't even include what you spend on what goes inside the tank,
and what you spend on water changes, supplements etc.

I had no idea what I was getting myself into, and I have no regrets.
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My electric bill has doubled ($50 to $100) since I started having tanks.  I do have 3 different systems going though.

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I've got a 250w sodium vapor i run almost 24/7 that only increased my bill about $20 a month....  just another reference point.
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I dont even want to know.......
I have flying monkeys and I'm not afraid to use them.

180 gallon money pit that I love.....
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Originally posted by Connie Connie wrote:

I dont even want to know.......



I'll agree with that!!
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I have a 3 seperate systems running with a total of 7 tanks (soon to be 9), and I live in Texas where A/C alone costs a ton.....so just remember that it could be a lot worse!
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Ok, so my next question. How on earth do you get your spouses to support
this expensive habit.

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haha, you guys always have your minds in the gutter!
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Oh man, get down on your knees, pray to "GOD" and take her to see as many beautiful tanks as possible.  May be then she will see something that really appeals to her and she'll be the one checking on your tank every day.  My wife asks more questions than I do to other members, loves to decide which frags to purchase and has even brought one or two pieces home from LFS.  She still tells everyone its my hobbie especially when the $ comes up.  At the meeting in April She was standing on a chair to see over everyone during the coral fragging demo.  "DO NOT GIVE UP BE PATIENT" as with everything else in this journey.
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Don't let her see the bills nor check book records.

Oh, and apparently if you buy her a dog she won't care about anything else.

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I'm with Adam! Keep her thinking about something else!
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Originally posted by dnellans dnellans wrote:

haha, you guys always have your minds in the gutter!

Originally posted by bugzme bugzme wrote:

I'm with Adam! Keep her thinking about something else!

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Get her involved with the tank!   Fred does all the mechanical, plumbing, electrical stuff and I do the chemistry and decorating.

Ask her how you should position your corals for color and looks.  Tell her you need her artistic eye.  Ask her what color you are missing and need to get (hint, hint) to make it a better "picture".

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This is crazy!!!!  I currently have a 65 gallon tank.  I have wanted to upgrade but I though my wife wouldn't want anything bigger.  Just last night, she said "I would like to get a bigger tank".  We visited Reefrookies house a month or so ago and he has a 120.  She said she wanted one like his.  That was like music to my ears.  I guess all of those times watching Finding Nemo really worked.  All she keeps talking about is how she wants a "Dori" fish.  I already have a purple and a yellow tang in there so I dont dare unless I get a bigger tank.  I almost thought I was dreaming...

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24tardo,  Tell her its always best to have two of everything in case something goes wrong with one.  Since you are in such a favorable condition you might as well push your luck.  What's the worse case She says no and you still get a 120.

 

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