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Topic: Orange Algae?!?!?! Posted: May 20 2004 at 5:15pm |
Ok, I've had a little brown algae, a couple spots of red popped up on and off recently, and I've always had Purple. But somewhere between going to work and coming home I have had a bunch of ORANGE?!?! Algae growing on various previously bare spots of LR.
The tank WAS established, I bought if from the guy: lr, sand, fish, water and all. Then I had a major crisis and had to change out half the water. Now it appears to be going through cycles.
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Posted: May 20 2004 at 6:40pm |
Looks a lot like diatoms(brown algae)... how new is your tank? This is a common algae noticed during some cycles(usually in new tanks). List all your water test results and we may be of more help, though.
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Posted: May 20 2004 at 6:59pm |
I already had some brown algae in patches and it was a much darker brown. It may be my lighting but this really does come across as orange in real life (even more than the pics show).
I tested my water and everything is within normal params except the nitrates which have always been area the 100 range (I know, I'm working on that issue as well). Basically the water tests the same as it has for the last 3 months.
OH, 1 difference, 2 days ago I put in a quart of rotifers and green water, could this just be a different algae picked up from that? I also cleaned off my top glass which increased the light in the tank slightly. |
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 7:33am |
The pics make me think that overfeeding is causing some trouble. Try stopping the feeding for two days and then feed half as much for a while and see what happens. I have been extemely busy lately. I'll come visit and bring your snails as soon as I have time.
An additional thought is that it needs macroalgae. Is there any currently growing in the tank?
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 8:23am |
There is some macro algae in the tank, but nothing substantial. My tangs appear to be grazing on any new growth.
I do feed my fish a variety of food and fairly often, but only as much as they will eat immediately (10-20 seconds).
I had done it that way becuase if I fed them a 'normal' serving, half of it goes in my overflow before they eat it. So I only feed them as much as they will clear the second it hits the surface.
I feed them three small servings daily: - Flakes in the morning - Alternate Blood Worms or Brine Shrimp at noon - Rotate various frozen cubes at night
If I'm only feeding them as much as they can eat immediately, would that cause overfeeding issues? My fish act like I'm starving them when they do get fed.
BTW, I won't need many snails, probably need crabs more. Of course, that was one of the things you were going to help me figure out.
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 9:06am |
improdigal wrote:
I feed them three small servings daily: - Flakes in the morning - Alternate Blood Worms or Brine Shrimp at noon - Rotate various frozen cubes at night
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 10:20am |
Wow as in 'too much' or Wow, I'm obsessive compulsive? 
I brought this practice over from my Fresh water tanks. I found rotating their diet gave them much brighter colors and shinier scales overall.
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 10:34am |
I think we will all agree that rotating their diet is the best practice.
I think Adam's WOW response was due to the amount of food being feed.
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 10:54am |
Ok, what would be standard then. I have a 150 gallon tank with around 10 2"-5" fish. They act like they are starving all the time with what I feed them already.
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 12:03pm |
I think that most reef fish act like that all the time. They have a tendancy to push food through their bodies as fast and as much as they are fed.
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 12:08pm |
I guess my next question would be, can I overfeed them rotifers??? I'm trying to build up my 'bug-base' so I added a whole quart of them to my tank a couple days ago.
The aquarium told me that might cause an Algae bloom, but I need one at this point, I can't get algae to grow faster than it is eaten by my sea urchin (see nitrate problem above .
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 12:10pm |
Here's my general practice... I feed 3 x's per week. It's a 55 gl tank with 7 fish. On Mon, Wed, and Sat, I feed 2 tsp of A homemade fish mush(clams, oysters, crawdad tail, sushi nori, brine shrimp, and vitamins) and a small pinch of Cyclop-eeze... For tangs, you can leave a clip of algae(commercial, sushi, microalgae) on the days not feeding. On Sun, I try to stir the top 1/4 - 1/2 inch of the sandbed to get any detritus that's caught back into the water column and feeds the filter feeders at the same time. Marine fish (most) generally have a much slower metabolizm than FW fish.
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 12:11pm |
1 have a 120 with 11 small reef chromis & 1 hawk fish, 1 bartlett anth., i lr. purple tang, 1 royal gramma, 1 phsudochromis, 2 clowns, 1 carpenters wrasse. 2 stars and 4 shrimp..... I feed one cube every other day... They act like they have never seen food before but I really think feeding 1/4 of what you are and everyother day would help.....
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 12:17pm |
Although feeding your fish as much as you are is probably not hurting them, it directly correlates with you nitrate problem.
I would stop feeding altogether for a couple of days and then start feeding them a little each day.
I would also recommend a large water change ASAP to take care of the immediate nitrate problem.
What types of filtration do you have on your aquarium? How much live rock? What type of sand bed and how deep is it? etc.
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 12:23pm |
I have a sump system under the tank (40gallon) with the skimmer/heater/bioballs in the sump. I'm planning to setup a refugium with my old 25 gallon tank as soon as I can move out the FW fish in it and get someone over to help me set it up. 
In the tank itself I have about 100lbs of LR, 4' crushed coral substrate.
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 6:41pm |
Bio balls could be a major part of your problem... pure nitrate factories. IMO, slowly remove the balls(20% per week) until until gone.
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Posted: May 22 2004 at 7:33am |
I'm going to cut back my feedings to a small serving once/day and see how that helps.
What purpose were the bioballs supposed to serve (ie. will I have other problems when I remove them) and why do they cause a nitrate buildup?
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Posted: May 22 2004 at 9:31am |
My quick take. The "wow" was for both regularity and quantity. I would say that I am one of those people on the far side of feed your fish a ton. I feed my feed about once per day when I first get them, but after a week or so, I go back to my regular feeding schedule. Typically, I feed my tank about once every 3 days. Jake on the other hand is a "a hungry fish is a healthy fish" guy and he feeds his tank about once every 3 weeks.
Your variety is great, and similar to mine (except my staple is the food we made at the meeting) but that is a lot of food to add to the tank. Remember whatever goes in the fish, comes out on the other end. That could be a big source of nutrients for your tank.
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Posted: May 22 2004 at 9:39am |
I would leave the bioballs in. They do not produce nitrates, the excess food does. I have always used bioballs in both my tanks and I measure 1 and 0 in them. Get some macro algae growing in a refugium and watch your nitrates drop.
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Posted: May 22 2004 at 10:15am |
Bio balls are the area in which bacteria builds and where nitrites and ammonia, through chemical reaction, produce nitrates(IMO, the nitrate factory). I do agree that macro algae is an awesome ingredient to any sump. LR is also a great asset for filtration/denitrification. As well as a good skimmer. I don't intend to offend with my opinion, though. It just goes to show that there's no "one way" to have and maintain a successful captive reef.
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